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Old 02-27-2014, 09:44 AM   #11
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Nice summary, 'Dad.
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Old 02-27-2014, 10:56 AM   #12
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I agree that the bumper mount option is hotly contested. Here is my solution- it may or may not satisfy everyone, however. With that being said- an option I find viable is to use the BAL undercarriage spare tire carrier to get that weight off of the bumper. Then use a solid mounted bike carrier like a Swagman that you can secure the bikes to rigidly. If you can get the load to NOT BOUNCE and jar the bumper is the key. Can't tell you what they'd say on warranty.

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Old 02-27-2014, 11:26 AM   #13
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I always see RVs with a regular ladder strapped to the RV ladder, so am I to take it that you should not do that?
I'm one of those! My ladder it's aluminum and very light.
No bikes for us in the rv ladder.
Sometimes two chairs plus the extra ladder.
We do carry 2 bikes (kids, not adults) on the TT bumper with a bike rack, never a problem with it.
Check camping world, they have a new trailer a-frame cargo carrier to carry up to 300 lbs. And can be modified to carry bikes. ($225.99)
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Old 02-27-2014, 11:31 AM   #14
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I agree that the bumper mount option is hotly contested. Here is my solution- it may or may not satisfy everyone, however. With that being said- an option I find viable is to use the BAL undercarriage spare tire carrier to get that weight off of the bumper. Then use a solid mounted bike carrier like a Swagman that you can secure the bikes to rigidly. If you can get the load to NOT BOUNCE and jar the bumper is the key. Can't tell you what they'd say on warranty.

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2 Bike Bumper Mount Carrier | 921351 | 80605 | SWAGMAN/DANIK :: United RV Parts Store
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From the look of that bike carrier, it might be possible to have both the carrier and the spare tire mounted to the bumper. I don't have the TT nearby, but I believe my spare sits almost on my bumper.... If not, I assume it could be turned around or something to achieve that.

The BAL carrier is interesting. I might consider it for the ascetics. I'm curious what it was though. In their brochure, they claim bumper mounted spare tires add weight. By saying this they're implying that their mount weighs less.
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Old 02-27-2014, 11:39 AM   #15
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From the look of that bike carrier, it might be possible to have both the carrier and the spare tire mounted to the bumper. I don't have the TT nearby, but I believe my spare sits almost on my bumper.... If not, I assume it could be turned around or something to achieve that.

The BAL carrier is interesting. I might consider it for the ascetics. I'm curious what it was though. In their brochure, they claim bumper mounted spare tires add weight. By saying this they're implying that their mount weighs less.
I had the Swagman on my previous camper with a spare tire. I had to do some serious mods to the spare mount to get the tire to clear for a bike. I had the 2 bike model and was carrying 2 bikes. You could get the 4 bike model and not use the closest bike location and leave the spare tire in it's original but that places the bike load farther from the bumper resulting in a torqueing effect placing more stress on the bumper and welds. I think the BAL and Swagman is the way to go if you wanna carry bikes on your bumper. As far as weight- I don't think there will be much difference between carrier types.
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I had the Swagman on my previous camper with a spare tire. I had to do some serious mods to the spare mount to get the tire to clear for a bike. I had the 2 bike model and was carrying 2 bikes. You could get the 4 bike model and not use the closest bike location and leave the spare tire in it's original but that places the bike load farther from the bumper resulting in a torqueing effect placing more stress on the bumper and welds. I think the BAL and Swagman is the way to go if you wanna carry bikes on your bumper. As far as weight- I don't think there will be much difference between carrier types.

Ok, I stand corrected. Like I said, I don't have it nearby so I was just trying to work off memory.

I wouldn't be using a bike carrier to carry the bikes anyways. I've got the bike door in the QB for those. But I am thinking about that spare mount. I never did like the look of the spare on the back of my rig. It would seem a lot cleaner without it. Plus I could then use the bumper to sit more than one person when I've got those beachside sites.
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Old 02-27-2014, 12:22 PM   #17
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there's an option to a custom-fabbed 5th bike mount:

support-rack.com | Produits

also an A-frame mounted setup, similar to the Toppoprails systems, that have been around for quite awhile.

Travel-Trailers

both are very expensive and both companies are located in Quebec.
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there's an option to a custom-fabbed 5th bike mount:

support-rack.com | Produits

also an A-frame mounted setup, similar to the Toppoprails systems, that have been around for quite awhile.

Travel-Trailers

both are very expensive and both companies are located in Quebec.
A caution on the 5th wheel pin box mount. Does not work well on short bed trucks. Not enough room in front of the aero cap to cab. (At least in my shortbed GMC.
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there's an option to a custom-fabbed 5th bike mount:

support-rack.com | Produits

also an A-frame mounted setup, similar to the Toppoprails systems, that have been around for quite awhile.

Travel-Trailers

both are very expensive and both companies are located in Quebec.
That Support-Rack travel trailer/over-the-propane-bottles mount is pretty cool. As long as you have the tongue weight capacity, that looks like a great option.
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Old 02-27-2014, 01:40 PM   #20
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That Support-Rack travel trailer/over-the-propane-bottles mount is pretty cool. As long as you have the tongue weight capacity, that looks like a great option.
Toppoprails came out with this design before Support-Rack did.
i find it interesting that for years, nobody else came out with a similar setup, not even Yakima or Thule.
then just a couple of years ago, Support-Rack shows up with virtually a clone of Toppoprails' system. but they are in Quebec also.
does Quebec have special laws protecting product designs developed in their province? that only another company in Quebec, can copy?

it's been a mystery to me, why the large rack companies, like Yakima and Thule haven't come up with similar systems to attach to TT's and 5th wheels.
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