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Old 11-07-2014, 01:30 PM   #1
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Black ANTI SIPHON/Vacuum break

If anyone has a Rockwood/ flagstaff 5er. Do you know if we have a black plastic anti siphon valve, and more important where is it located like the one shown in the Crusaded post and warning? When winterizing I blew air and heard some gurgle sound behind my shower enclosure. Took the shower fixture off and couldn't find anything except the hot and cold plex lines. I don't think we have one, anyone know or found there's?...
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Old 11-08-2014, 04:06 AM   #2
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Moderators, can you move this to General Discussion, seems I can't get an answer under Rockwood where I placed it, maybe some more will read it and I can get a answer? Thanks
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Old 11-08-2014, 07:06 AM   #3
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Mine is under the vanity.
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Old 11-08-2014, 08:01 AM   #4
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Mine is under the vanity.
Thanks I just checked it is not under mine, I just can not find it anywhere. I called my dealer he said he never heard of it, so great help from the dealer.... I have a hot and cold plex line and my heater duct to the bedroom only boxed in and I removed the box, it's not there on a 8289WS. I have looked from heaven to hell for it. Only thing I haven't done is taken out my shower surround enclosure. Thanks for giving me a place to look now I know what is behind that 3 sided enclosure. Like I said I heard a gurgle behind the shower wall when I blew out the black tank flush line, but when I pulled the faucets it not there either. If I have one it has to be some place it can be serviced without pulling a whole shower out. But who's know's I love my FR unit but this crazy.
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Old 11-08-2014, 12:39 PM   #5
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Look directly behind and above the black tank flush hose inlet.

You may have to measure from something you CAN locate to find about where that vacuum break is located.
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I have traced it as far as I can It runs next to my hot and cold for the shower and sink and the toilet flush. Once it go into that hole where the hot and cold go to the shower and bath sink, I can't find it, like I said I did here a gurgle behind the shower wall but no access at all. It doesn't cross over in the basement to the tank. When it go's up that hole in the corner of the shower I lose it. 2 rubber hose's run next to each other. I assume 1 is my flush and the other is the BTF. It's like regular water hose. They both go up that hole in the corner then disappear. There is a raised floor there I thinking it's in between the floor and the ceiling in the basement. The basement ceiling is level front to back. Has 3/4" plywood for the basement ceiling.
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Mine is up behind the facets in the shower.
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Mine is up behind the facets in the shower.
Thanks I'll pull the faucet again, but didn't see it but heard it in the wall when I blew air through the line> I hopes it's not laying on the ground. I will pull it apart again in the AM. It's been driving me crazy. Thanks B&B, and you to Herk..
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Okay thanks B&B, I saw it but couldn't touch it. How stupid is FR to put it there, it is not serviceable. There is no slack in the line to pull it out. You would have to cut the hose in the basement where it go's up and then cut the hose again near the tank to pull it out if it broke or pull the whole shower out. DUMB,DUMB and a PITA.
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If anyone has a Rockwood/ flagstaff 5er. Do you know if we have a black plastic anti siphon valve, and more important where is it located like the one shown in the Crusaded post and warning? When winterizing I blew air and heard some gurgle sound behind my shower enclosure. Took the shower fixture off and couldn't find anything except the hot and cold plex lines. I don't think we have one, anyone know or found there's?...
Just wondering the mechanics of an anti siphon valve and it's intended purpose, if you don't mind a quick lesson.
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Just wondering the mechanics of an anti siphon valve and it's intended purpose, if you don't mind a quick lesson.
Quick lesson--(Keeps POO POO out of the F/Water supply! Youroo!!
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It's really a back flow preventer. You have to have vaccuum for it to work which is impossible with a vent pipe. If the vent pipe blocks up then it woulds still be a preventer Vacuum breaks are only used on pressurized systems. This is no more the a black flow preventer. And Youroo, it is impossible for it to get into your fresh water system. Now get back in your treestand and get a deer.
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If you're having issues with it, others have cut the pex and installed two 90's and a small pex section effectively eliminating the valve altogether. That might be able to be done down low where the pex lines are accessible. Personally, I would go that route instead of tearing my shower off the wall. Just my .02
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Quick lesson--(Keeps POO POO out of the F/Water supply! Youroo!!
There not connected. Are you kidding or just have no idea.
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There not connected. Are you kidding or just have no idea.
They are if your water supply has a Y attached to it with a hose going to water inlet and hose going to black flush.
Conversely, EVERYBODY at the CG is attached to your black tank if you have no vacuum break and something goes wrong while you are flushing.

So yes, "they're" connected.
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actually it prevents a full black tank from backing up that line and leaking out by siphoning out. Mine is located behind the closet in the bathroom it is looped higher then the toilet and that is where the valve is they do have a piece of luan screwed on but if you remove the screws you can not remove it because it is to big to get out of the cabinet you can just see the valve in there but no way can you get to it.
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A simple vacuum break for garden facet will achieve the same thing. It is an issue if it is not used. Every CG could put one on the water supply but they are known to leak and drip so they don't to prevent wasted water.
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Old 11-10-2014, 05:32 AM   #18
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There not connected. Are you kidding or just have no idea.
I don't know how (YOU) hook up your (Black Tank Rinse) but most have a (Garden Hose Fitting) that people hook up a (Fresh Water Hose ) I would call this (Connected)! I also have a Very good Idea who has Not a Clue! Youroo!!
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actually it prevents a full black tank from backing up that line and leaking out by siphoning out. Mine is located behind the closet in the bathroom it is looped higher then the toilet and that is where the valve is they do have a piece of luan screwed on but if you remove the screws you can not remove it because it is to big to get out of the cabinet you can just see the valve in there but no way can you get to it.
Well mine is impossible to get out to I would have to cut it and reroute it through the basement area. Then just use a back flow preventer. I'm surly not pulling that whole shower out. just DUMB, DUMB, and DUMBER. I just wanted know where it was incase it ever leaked. Now I know thanks to B&B.....
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Ours starting leaking yesterday on 8282ws. While flushing black tank, we noticed water leaking in storage compartment and in the bathroom vanity/sink cabinet. Shut off water to look for leak, then noticed a small black backflow preventer valve connected to two water lines. Water was dripping from the top part of the device. This one appears to be easy to replace, screw on type to water lines. I attempted to take pictures, but couldn't get a clear pic with make or model number. Need to go back to get info for replacement.
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