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Old 01-13-2016, 09:22 AM   #11
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I take and post Many Pic's of Shake bumper Setups! It isnt just Net Talk or Facebook,its Real Time Pic's I see and take! When the Bumper End Caps are missing that is the 1st Clue there is a Problem,I know Drill a hole and place a ? through the sheet metal and cap! Here is another Real Deal Failure ready to Happen! Youroo!!
There are ways to do it and ways not to do it. You posted two pics of the ways not to do it. You're always going to have the dumas factor.

You can't make a blanket statement that it can't be done and be done safely without voiding the frame warranty, breaking the bumper, or killing people.

Tonight I'll look on my other server and see if I still have pics of some of my modifications.
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:12 AM   #12
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There are ways to do it and ways not to do it. You posted two pics of the ways not to do it. You're always going to have the dumas factor.

You can't make a blanket statement that it can't be done and be done safely without voiding the frame warranty, breaking the bumper, or killing people.

Tonight I'll look on my other server and see if I still have pics of some of my modifications.
I hope your Blanket Statement was not directed at me! Youroo!!
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:26 AM   #13
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I hope your Blanket Statement was not directed at me! Youroo!!
It wasn't. It was directed at post #2 which is the typical blanket statement someone always comes up with every time the bumper deal is mentioned.
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:38 AM   #14
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The important message here is it is not only dependent on how it is attached ( bumper/frame/extra supports) it is also dependent on the the frame (make and model ). What works well on the back of a 34ft MH frame will not work on the back of a 24ft ultra light TT. If you are looking for info pro or con on adding something on the bumper, be sure you look at info from others with similar units. This is no different than answering the question will my TV tow that 5er. Because the guy with a 1ton dually can doesn't mean your Chevy 2 can.
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:59 AM   #15
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The important message here is it is not only dependent on how it is attached ( bumper/frame/extra supports) it is also dependent on the the frame (make and model ). What works well on the back of a 34ft MH frame will not work on the back of a 24ft ultra light TT. If you are looking for info pro or con on adding something on the bumper, be sure you look at info from others with similar units. This is no different than answering the question will my TV tow that 5er. Because the guy with a 1ton dually can doesn't mean your Chevy 2 can.
Very true.
Here's pictures of the Rockwood twin to my Flagstaff Ultra Lite 5er with a bumper/frame heavy enough to support just about anything you want to put back there within reason. Came from the factory designed just for this.

I plan to add this kind of rear storage to mine.
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Old 01-13-2016, 01:17 PM   #16
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They may of may not void the warranty if you have a problem. From my own experience. In 2012 I had purchased a Rockwood 8289. I asked the shop foreman about adding something to the frame so I could haul my bikes.His response was "We'll take care of you, don't worry about it.". For whatever reason I never added anything to the bumper. the second year I owned it I noticed a funny slope to the floor. It turns out I had a frame problem. The dealer contacted the warranty company and I had to send pictures of the bumper along with other pics to verify there was nothing added and never had been anything added. Buyer beware and enter at your own risk. BTW, the people at Rockwood are great to work with but at this point you are working with Lippert of current frame manufacturer.
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Old 01-13-2016, 01:35 PM   #17
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Very true.
Here's pictures of the Rockwood twin to my Flagstaff Ultra Lite 5er with a bumper/frame heavy enough to support just about anything you want to put back there within reason. Came from the factory designed just for this.

I plan to add this kind of rear storage to mine.
I have the same thing on my SOB TT. That thing is built like a tank.
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If the bumper fails in any way and you've modified it without the manufacturer's (FR and frame manufacturer) written consent, they WILL NOT honor any warranty. Period.

Now, if, like Mr. Havercamp, you can get a licensed structural engineer to do a design for you - and they're willing to stamp and sign their name on a shop drawing - have at it. Now you have someone to blame. If you, or a welder friend, do the mod, you're on your own. I'm not saying it can't or shouldn't be done, I'm just saying you won't have anyone to blame for a failure but the guy in the mirror because your insurance company won't pay for the repairs either.
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Old 01-13-2016, 02:39 PM   #19
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They may of may not void the warranty if you have a problem. From my own experience. In 2012 I had purchased a Rockwood 8289. I asked the shop foreman about adding something to the frame so I could haul my bikes.His response was "We'll take care of you, don't worry about it.". For whatever reason I never added anything to the bumper. the second year I owned it I noticed a funny slope to the floor. It turns out I had a frame problem. The dealer contacted the warranty company and I had to send pictures of the bumper along with other pics to verify there was nothing added and never had been anything added. Buyer beware and enter at your own risk. BTW, the people at Rockwood are great to work with but at this point you are working with Lippert of current frame manufacturer.

The amusing thing about this. I have yet to see a weld on anything made by (LCI) Lippert that doesn't look like it was done by 1st grader. They produce some true garbage but you don't have much choice do you? The biggest part of adding a rear mount to any of these is fixing LCI's BS. Have you ever taken a good close look at how they (LCI) assemble these things? You do not get power plant and pipeline quality welding paying people $12 an hour.

Itat, just to be clear my guy didn't stamp anything I just had him run the numbers I came up with. I figured since he designed the iron in the 20 story building we were working on, he could tell me if my bumper and platform would hold a tote tank and aluminum step ladder without causing armageddon.
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Old 01-13-2016, 05:56 PM   #20
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I take and post Many Pic's of Shake bumper Setups! It isnt just Net Talk or Facebook,its Real Time Pic's I see and take! When the Bumper End Caps are missing that is the 1st Clue there is a Problem,I know Drill a hole and place a ? through the sheet metal and cap! Here is another Real Deal Failure ready to Happen! Youroo!!
You STILL HAVE NOT posted any pics of a failure with before and after pics. So far as we know, those setups are still going down the road just fine. Frankly, I can't tell from your pics on how they are actually attached.

Did you crawl under that generator pic and see if the receiver was a beefed up one welded to the frame? Or are you just assuming it's a receiver bolted to the 4" bumper? I know I sure can't tell from your pic.
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