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Old 06-28-2016, 08:57 PM   #11
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Our tank was never filled, the supports bent simply due to the weight of the tank which was about 2/3 full. The angles used were too light. In addition they punch the leg of the angle to accept the tab on the spreader angles. On ours not only did they punch those oblong holes in the horizontal leg but also in the vertical leg weakening it further. It bent and actually kinked where those punched holes were. I replaced with a heavier angle. I did not want to reduce my ground clearance which is too low to begin with.
That's exactly where it bent. Ground clearance was a non issue for me. (I would wipe the steps out loooog before the mod.
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Old 06-28-2016, 09:16 PM   #12
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Thanks Grizzman that's what I did today but I did an overkill and put in a third rail down the middle underneath the middle front to back supports
Great! My low point drain is in the middle at one end. So that was not an easy option.
I had never taken this 2016 2504S on a trip.
Not only did the mounts bent, the tank split open at a corner of the low point drain. I added a front to back brace next to it. Its unbelievable just how "round" the tank got at that end. According to the manufacturer of the tank it should be supported on all sides with "at least" 1/2" plywood. Go figure.....
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:50 AM   #13
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Great! My low point drain is in the middle at one end. So that was not an easy option.
I had never taken this 2016 2504S on a trip.
Not only did the mounts bent, the tank split open at a corner of the low point drain. I added a front to back brace next to it. Its unbelievable just how "round" the tank got at that end. According to the manufacturer of the tank it should be supported on all sides with "at least" 1/2" plywood. Go figure.....

Who is the manufacturer of your tank? I could not find a manufacturers name on the stock tank in our 2017 Roo 23WS.


I added a second tank on our Roo. This one was made by Alpha Systems, is the same exact dimensions and almost the same fitting configuration as the stock tank, and its quality and strength is head and shoulders above the cheap flimsy tank Rockwood installed at the factory.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:19 PM   #14
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My tank seemed to be made of pretty thick material so it didn't deform very much or at least I caught it in time before it had the chance to
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:23 PM   #15
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And what do these ratchet straps get attached to? The steel that is already deflecting? Evidently you're not familiar with the construction of these specific trailers were talking about. You have nothing to attach those straps to other than the steel that is already failing.

You do not want to play around with this by doing some type of band aid fix. It's not going to be pretty if that tank comes out while you're going down the road for you or the people behind you.
Actually I did use ratchet straps to hold other up till we got it home, I used 2 and crossed them in the middle where the bend was. I attached them to the frame side to side rails with the hooks through the holes that are used for the various wiring
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Old 07-01-2016, 02:12 AM   #16
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[QUOTE=TonyD;1241941]Mr. Havercamp, you are rude.














Totally agree!
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Old 07-01-2016, 06:47 AM   #17
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Actually I did use ratchet straps to hold other up till we got it home, I used 2 and crossed them in the middle where the bend was. I attached them to the frame side to side rails with the hooks through the holes that are used for the various wiring
Using nylon straps as a temporary fix to get you home is one thing. Suggesting they be used as a permanent repair in this situation is completely different. The logic that most people can't cut steel, so throw some nylon straps around it as a permanent solution is just wrong. If the roof of your house springs a leak, maybe you should just spray some Flexseal on it because you don't know how to pound a nail. That's just my own rude opinion.

All of these tanks have some give to them when you fill them. I know for a fact that in some of the cases where these supports bend, it's caused by the manufacturers having the tank installed tight to the underside of the floor. They should leave at least three quarters of an inch of space above the tank.

I suspect that Grizz's tank splitting like that, off of the drain fitting was more of a problem caused by the spin welding process installing the fitting. It's very easy to run the router just a little too long while you're spinning one of those fittings on which makes the wall of the tank too thin right where the hole was drilled.
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:34 PM   #18
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For some reason, I'm feeling the need to defend Mr. Havercamp.

It would seem TonyD has thin skin. I did not find Mr Havercamp's response in #8 at all rude; I would describe it as a "frank" response. Sometimes we don't like to hear a frank response, but that doesn't make it "rude." He was simply providing his opinion of what you were planning to do (or maybe did do.).

He didn't call you names, he didn't question your integrity, he didn't besmirch your good name or impugn your family.

He did question your knowledge of the frame construction, but I might have, too.

He's been frank with me in the past. I may not have liked it, but it wasn't rude.
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Using nylon straps as a temporary fix to get you home is one thing. Suggesting they be used as a permanent repair in this situation is completely different. The logic that most people can't cut steel, so throw some nylon straps around it as a permanent solution is just wrong. If the roof of your house springs a leak, maybe you should just spray some Flexseal on it because you don't know how to pound a nail. That's just my own rude opinion.

All of these tanks have some give to them when you fill them. I know for a fact that in some of the cases where these supports bend, it's caused by the manufacturers having the tank installed tight to the underside of the floor. They should leave at least three quarters of an inch of space above the tank.

I suspect that Grizz's tank splitting like that, off of the drain fitting was more of a problem caused by the spin welding process installing the fitting. It's very easy to run the router just a little too long while you're spinning one of those fittings on which makes the wall of the tank too thin right where the hole was drilled.
The tank split at the square low point drain in a corner due to the tank going "round". It was so round the tank heater was pealed off the tank.
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Use a jack and take the bend out of the support.(do this with the tank empty) measure across the frame and buy .065 walled 1"X 2" box steel. Line up the 1"X 2" with the support frame to frame. Drill through the the box steel, frame and tank support. Install a nut bolt and lock washer . Do this to both sides. Repeat with the other support. Then NEVER fill the tank with high flow and unattended. This is what caused the tank to bulge and bend the support. (Don't ask me how I know)
Don't ask how I know either.

I pulled my framework out, straightened it up, then reinforced it with .125"X1.5" angle iron.
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