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Old 06-16-2018, 06:32 PM   #1
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Front Window Concerns On Rockwood 2509s

I am considering purchase of Rockwood Mini Lite 2509S. Please respond to verify or dispel each concern with the Front Window on Rockwood 2509S or other models with front window.
1. Breaks or rock chips from tow vehicle.
2. Does it let in light when shade is pulled or does it completely block out the sunlight? I wake up at first light and it seems sunlight will be in my face with the window right over my head.
3. Does it cast a silhouette of what is going on inside the trailer through the shade at night when interior lights are on.
4. Leaks
It seems a poorly conceived addition in campers with a Murphy bed. During the day when the window would most likely be used is when I would want to stow the Murphy bed to use the couch. Murphy bed will cover the window during the day. At night when you are less likely to even use the window is when I am concerned with privacy. I don't want to be the entertainment for the campground!!!!!!
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Old 06-16-2018, 06:46 PM   #2
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Old 06-16-2018, 07:47 PM   #3
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My 2016 is one of the flat faced ones. If I were to buy one today with the glass in front, I would go to a boat canvas shop and have a padded sumbrella cover made that would snap around the window. With the right color it would look good, minumize the chance of a chip and provide an answer to any privacy concerns. Jay
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Old 06-17-2018, 10:03 AM   #4
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We have a new 2509s that we have used 3 times since picking it up in May, so I will try to answer some of your questions.

The front shade is the same as on all the other windows, so no more light comes in through the front window than any other. More light comes in through the window in the door than anywhere else (we are working on a cover for that).

I worry more about rocks and debris from other vehicles hitting the window than rocks from my rear tires. Good mudflaps help that issue. I would like to find some type of custom cover for travelling...if possible just for added protection.

During the day, all the windows are tinted so it's very difficult to see inside. Pull the shade at night and no issues with giving the campground a "show". Someone could easily see inside without the shade drawn, but you cant see through it.

Just like the windshield on your tv, if its properly installed it should not leak. I've heard of a couple people online who had leaks, but we've had heavy rain and I washed it too with no leaks. It's heavy windshield grade glass.

I understand your thoughts on a front window/murphy bed combo. I was disappointed at first when they changed the front end. We had been looking for awhile, and that almost changed our minds. I'm glad we didn't let that stop us from buying it.. We love this camper!! The floor plan is great for 2 adults and 2 kids. Its roomy enough inside for all of us, and easy to tow with a 1/2 ton pickup. We looked at older models before we ordered the 2019 model, and I think the new front end makes it feel bigger up front. I would not hesitate to recommend the 2509s to anybody looking for a trailer in this class.

Hope that helps. As Josh the RV nerd says, "good luck and happy camping."
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Old 06-17-2018, 03:53 PM   #5
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We have owned a 2511S for a couple of months. It has the curved front windshield that we just love. Waking up in the morning with that window at the head of the bed is really cool. You can slide up the shade and enjoy all the views of nature right from your bed. I think it is one of the best features of the trailer. I agree with many of the points that TJ Midwest mentioned above. Good luck with your decision.
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Old 06-17-2018, 05:19 PM   #6
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I have a 2017 2109s with the front window. DON'T GET ONE WITH a FRONT WINDOW! Ours was cracked by something when meeting someone on the highway the first few months we had it. I didn't do anything. Months later, we were marbled by someone back east while traveling. Got my truck windshield and the camper window again.

I looked into replacing the window going back to the old style metal cover that goes over the window. It will be around $800 to repair and cover up.

It is a huge engineering flaw and will eventually cost you a lot of money to replace that window.
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Old 06-17-2018, 05:27 PM   #7
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2. Shade doesn't stop much light as far as sleeping goes. We camped too near a street light once and another time our campsite neighbor had enough light outside all night to see from space... I cut two pieces of cardboard (didn't have a big enough piece for one) and slid between the shade and the glass. You cannot see it from the outside due to the dark windows and not from the inside with the shade down. It worked so good I did all the windows except the kitchen.
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Old 06-17-2018, 05:40 PM   #8
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We have the 2018 flat front 2509S

We got one of the first 2018 models but it was just like the previous year with a flat front. So, I guess the round front model is a 2018.5 It would be nice to have a window at the head of the bed but we haven't missed it.

What we did for light issues is to cut pieces of Reflectix or Double Bubble insulation to cover the windows and it works well. Plus when you are parked you can use it to keep the heat of the sun outside and save on the air conditioning. We cut one piece and fastened it with Velcro tabs over the skylight in the bathroom. It cuts the inside temp by a huge amount.

When not being used all these window covers slip under the mattress of the bunks.
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Old 06-18-2018, 08:54 AM   #9
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Same for our 2018 Rockwood Signature Ultra Lite

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We have a new 2509s that we have used 3 times since picking it up in May, so I will try to answer some of your questions.

The front shade is the same as on all the other windows, so no more light comes in through the front window than any other. More light comes in through the window in the door than anywhere else (we are working on a cover for that).

I worry more about rocks and debris from other vehicles hitting the window than rocks from my rear tires. Good mudflaps help that issue. I would like to find some type of custom cover for travelling...if possible just for added protection.

During the day, all the windows are tinted so it's very difficult to see inside. Pull the shade at night and no issues with giving the campground a "show". Someone could easily see inside without the shade drawn, but you cant see through it.

Just like the windshield on your tv, if its properly installed it should not leak. I've heard of a couple people online who had leaks, but we've had heavy rain and I washed it too with no leaks. It's heavy windshield grade glass.

I understand your thoughts on a front window/murphy bed combo. I was disappointed at first when they changed the front end. We had been looking for awhile, and that almost changed our minds. I'm glad we didn't let that stop us from buying it.. We love this camper!! The floor plan is great for 2 adults and 2 kids. Its roomy enough inside for all of us, and easy to tow with a 1/2 ton pickup. We looked at older models before we ordered the 2019 model, and I think the new front end makes it feel bigger up front. I would not hesitate to recommend the 2509s to anybody looking for a trailer in this class.

Hope that helps. As Josh the RV nerd says, "good luck and happy camping."
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:01 PM   #10
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Thanks for comments.

Thanks for comments. I think I can make modifications for just about any concern I have concerning the front window but I am now most concerned about how long Forrest River will have that "special" window available as a replacement part and how much will it cost to replace? I tend to keep autos and campers for an extended time because I maintain them at the highest level. That could be a major issue for this front window camper a few years from now. If you spend anytime on the highway, gravel and back roads as I do, you will get rocks chips and windshield breaks. Almost all of my vehicles eventually have a rock in the windshield during their life but I easily replace them. Auto glass is easy to find. I will have to research how long Forrest River will have these special windshields or if after market glass can be found. What would you do with a camper with a broken front window that you can't replace? I will see how Forrest River answers my concern to see if I am willing to take a chance on a camper I will have for many years.

If it can happen, it seems to happen to me.
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