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Old 04-06-2012, 11:08 AM   #21
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Well the tour was pretty fascinating. It's like watching cirque du soleil!!! Watching those dudes work was more interesting than the build itself. It is one thing to imagine an RV being built in a day. Completely another to see 30 plus built in a day!! The employees are very dedicated and work at an amazing speed. The quality of work was exceptional. I encourage anyone to tour if they can. We may tour other manufacturers just to compare the workmanship and quality. The build process went as I imagined it would as far as the stations and stages of a one day build. However it was still fascinating to see.

As indicated above, the walls are assembled in another building so other than seeing they are 1x4 aluminum studs I have nothing else. FR does not provide schematics and diagrams because "the design is ever changing from year to year". They also said if you ordered a tv for the bedroom they would include a support plate in the wall when they built it. Those of us who opted to buy a cheaper or better tv and install ourselves are SOL because they suggest the plate for strength and they advise against mounting tv without the plate because it compromises the vacuum seal of the wall. It's what I was told.

In summary I was very happy to see the build and feel very confident about the quality and durability of the rig. Trying not to be verbose so if you have specific questions about the tour don't hesitate to ask!
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Old 04-06-2012, 11:29 AM   #22
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Thank you for your "cliff notes" of the tour. I felt the same way about our tour. I would be interested to see how it compares to other factory and TT manufactures.
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Old 04-06-2012, 11:45 AM   #23
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Agreed, pbrackney! We will most likely look at other tours but I can't see how anyone can out work and out quality the Amish build of ours. I am actually grateful knowing who will be building ours.
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:07 PM   #24
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Not trying to be smart or anything but wouldn't a stud finder find the studs?
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:36 PM   #25
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Not sure if the a stud finder would locate aluminum studs in a wall. I would be more concerned about the vacuum laminated walls and causing issues with that. As soon as you drill into that wall you are compromising the vacuum, therefore canceling out any warranty of the wall if you have issues down the road. Not sure if I would want to take that chance.
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Old 04-06-2012, 01:04 PM   #26
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Found the aluminum stud!

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Not sure if the a stud finder would locate aluminum studs in a wall. I would be more concerned about the vacuum laminated walls and causing issues with that. As soon as you drill into that wall you are compromising the vacuum, therefore canceling out any warranty of the wall if you have issues down the road. Not sure if I would want to take that chance.
I used a stud finder that can find wood or metal. I did locate a 4" stud in the wall to the left as you face the tallest closet in the bedroom of the 3008W. I was puzzled by that since it was 4" but now that 1"X4" studs were mentioned I believe what the stud finder was indicating.

Good information here.
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Old 04-06-2012, 01:08 PM   #27
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Great to know. I did come across a different type of TV bracket that would actually screw into the top of a table, wardrobe, or the like. That way you do not have to bother with screwing into the wall.

Check out the link for more info. Just another option for you.

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Old 04-06-2012, 01:10 PM   #28
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Please note on the TV Mount that they have two different models with different heights. The link I sent is for the taller mount. They offer the smaller one too.
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I would really like to know more about the "vacuum laminated walls" and holes in the walls.

"As soon as you drill into that wall you are compromising the vacuum, therefore canceling out any warranty of the wall if you have issues down the road."

I do not think that there is vacuum inside the walls. That just seems wrong to me. Using vacuum to glue the laminate down makes more sense to me; but I am surely confused now.

After the glue has set; I see no earthly reason why you can put a screw or anchor into it. Someone fill me in...
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Old 04-06-2012, 03:36 PM   #30
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I'm confused right with you. I am just relaying what the Forest River guy told me. He said it could void your warranty. What does not amok sense to me is that there are holes in the walls after lamination anyway (windows, doors, vents, water heater vent, fridge, electric cord, water, outside shower, etc... So I would think just as you herk that once the glue is dried and the vacuum lamination is finished, drilling a hole would not affect that much. However I am no engineer so maybe there are reasons beyond my understanding. The brochure for the Flagstaff v-lites and classic super lite TT/5rs states the following: "flagstaff is one of the few light weight manufactures that is a fully 6 sided vacuum-bonded trailer. Our walls, floor, roof, fronts and backs are all built vacuum-bonded to ensure a light weight strong structural trailer."

Not sure what all that means. I would assume glue is involved. I think they use vacuum instead of the pinch roll method. Vacuum seems to bond it better.

Just more thoughts.

Herk you are much more knowledgeable than I so I would be interested in your thoughts on the matter, if, in the future, I need to drill or anchor something to the wall. I usually like to add coat hooks or an additional towel bar up and I am sure I will want to once we receive our new trailer in a few weeks.

Thanks to everyone for comments and suggestions. Loving these forums.
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