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Old 06-01-2016, 05:27 PM   #31
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The other problem is people seem to treat all 1/2 ton's as equal. But you can buy a 1500 Silverado with anywhere from 4,000 lb towing to 12,000 lb towing. So when the idiot salesman says, "Oh, your 1/2 ton can pull this," when he has no clue which one you have, many people get bamboozled.
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Old 06-07-2016, 11:20 PM   #32
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Now you've done it!

After reading these posts, I started looking at all of the numbers for my F-150 Ecoboost. 1244 lb cargo rating was the first line I crossed. Using the bathroom scale method the 2307 tongue weight is right around 1,000 lbs. Definitely over if I want to take the wife and dog with me... and the Equalizer. Even if I'm off by 200 lbs on the tongue weight it's still over.

Combined weight was 15,400. 8,000 lb trailer, 1,000 lb tongue weight and just under 6,000 empty truck leaves 400 lbs for passengers and all of the support equipment that rides in the bed.
Towing capacity was listed in the owners manual at 9,600. I knew I was under that and I really had no problems towing the trailer. I did feel that I was asking a lot of the truck especially with the big air brake molded into the front of the trailer (not the most aerodynamic design), but the 9,600 towing capacity was the only number I looked at.
In a worst case scenario, the police or insurance people will probably look at all of the numbers.

Sooooo... now I've got an F-250 PowerStroke.

The big question now is if I will live long enough to pay for it.
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Old 06-08-2016, 10:28 AM   #33
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Powerstroke

You will also benefit from the tow/haul and exhaust brake, as well as not being tossed about in the wind and when meeting 18 wheelers. The other surprise for me was the integrated brake system. Works far better than any add on's I've tried. You were also probably at the limit on the hitch capacity, and now you have a much beefier hitch. I was pulling an ultra-lite 5th wheel with a Chevy 1500. Although I was well withing the rated towing capacity, after weighing everything I found I was 400 lbs over the rated cargo capacity. I beefed it up with Timbrens, but ultimately opted for getting a proper tow vehicle. The biggest surprise for me was when I looked at the actual pillar sticker, the loaded F250 Powerstroke was only rated for 1960 lbs. cargo. I was already at 1900 with the Ultra-lite, and anticipated possibly getting a bigger rig, so I opted to go with the F350 with an additional 1400 lbs cargo capacity. Now, I think the F250 cargo rating is driven by the 10,000 lb GVWR for commercial reasons rather by real technical parameters, but still, I bet a large number of F250 diesels pulling 5th wheels are over the rated cargo capacity. Unfortunately, although there isn't much difference in manufacturing cost for the F350, there isn't as much leverage on pricing, so I did pay more.
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Old 06-08-2016, 10:52 AM   #34
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Rockfordroo - "The other problem is people seem to treat all 1/2 ton's as equal. But you can buy a 1500 Silverado with anywhere from 4,000 lb towing to 12,000 lb towing. So when the idiot salesman says, "Oh, your 1/2 ton can pull this," when he has no clue which one you have, many people get bamboozled."


Couldn't agree with rockfordroo any more if I tried. Cracks me up. We had already ordered our trailer from a dealer that was 4 hours away. But there was a local dealer that had the same trailer, only it had the wrong interior colors. We also had visited them first, they took down our info and were going to call us when they got one in stock. Still waiting for the call. Anyways, we wanted to take some measurements of some of the interior cargo spaces and things like that. So we had a friendly conversation with the sales people, they seemed legitimately trying to be helpful. We didn't have our truck, we drove the car. And every time we came across a salesman, they would ask what we had for a tow vehicle. So we told them an F150 with the ecoboost. And each of them immediately quoted that the new F150s could tow 12,200. Which was the correct number if you had the correctly equipped F150. Single cab, 2wd, etc. We all know the drill. I was just amazed that they didn't even bat an eye, just blurted out the tow information. Lol. Didn't ask if it was the "big" eco or the "small" eco. Didn't ask about bed length or whether it was 2 or 4 wheel drive. Classic dealer experience
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Old 06-08-2016, 03:29 PM   #35
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After my experiences with F150s one really has to do some serious homework. As was mentioned the F150 Ecoboost can pull 12000 lbs but ONLY under certain conditions - which are really unrealistic (who buys a 2wd regular cab truck anymore?).

As I mentioned in a previous post we bought a 2016 F350 Lariat 4wd powerstroke diesel. The incentives from Ford on these trucks is amazing right now with the 2017s coming in so we got a *sweet* deal - 0% for 72 months and only paid an arm instead of an arm and a leg

What a massive difference! After roadtripping it up to about 1500km we hooked up our fiver and out we went for our first test drive. My wife and I literally laughed out loud because it was like the fiver wasn't even there.
This truck is an awesome tow rig
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Old 06-20-2016, 06:58 PM   #36
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I was pretty happy with my F150 towing my rockwood 5th until I hit some steep hills..To much downshifting and high RPMs, Just bought a f250 powerstroke 6.7 diesel Will be heading out tomorrow Can't wait to see the difference.
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Nice upgrade!! Let us know how it does.
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Old 06-20-2016, 07:07 PM   #38
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You won't be sorry, I should of went directly to a Ram 2500 crew cab with the Cummins instead of a 1500 with a hemi, loved that truck but when it comes to pulling you can't beat a 3/4 ton truck., Good luck
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Truck is fantastic, first 300 miles it downshifted once, the f150 probably would have been about 500 times
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