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Old 10-17-2015, 06:15 AM   #11
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The water in the heater will cool off and it takes energy to reheat it. It's easy to figure out how much.

1. Run the hot water until the heat, gas or electric, comes on.
2. Wait for the heat to go off.
3. Run as little hot water as possible to measure the temperature.
4. The next morning, measure the temperature again.
5. It takes 1 BTU to heat 1 pound of water by 1 degree Fahrenheit. A 6 gallon water heater has 6 gallons X 8.34 pounds per gallon = 50.04 pounds of water.
6. Propane has about 20,000 BTU's per pound. Electricity has 3412 BTU's per kilowatt-hour. The electric heat is 100% efficient, but the propane heat is not. I'd guess it's about 70% to 80% efficient, so you'd get 14,000 to 16,000 BTU's into the water. The rest goes out the exhaust.

Do this and you can decide if for yourself which way you want to go.

As an example, using a wild guess for temperature drop, say it loses 60 degrees overnight:
60 degrees X 50 pounds X 1 BTU/lb-F = 3000 BTU.
Then 3000 BTU divided by 14,000 BTU/lb = 0.2 pounds of propane.

Just remember that the colder it is outside, the more heat will be lost overnight. The heat loss will be proportional to the difference between the hot water and outside temperatures. (I.E., loss at 30 F is not twice as much as at 60 F.)

PS When the tongue lashing starts after you forget to turn it back on in the morning, just say, "Gee, it's taking longer than usual for the water to reheat" and quietly turn it on before she finds out. It worked for me.
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Old 10-17-2015, 07:40 AM   #12
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For one night, I think it's a wash. Longer than that - turn it off.
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Old 10-17-2015, 07:55 AM   #13
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I turn mine off. Turn it on at supper to heat for DW shower turn off when she is done. I turn it on in the am when I get up to get our coffey have to walk right by it and by the time we are done drinking the coffey in bed water hot time to get up. Turn off as I pass into bathroom. Just a routine been into for as long as I can remember. Later RJD
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Old 10-17-2015, 08:12 AM   #14
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This is more of a personal preference than a large saving of LP gas I think...
I'm a light sleeper and the WH will probably wake me if it fires during the
night. When we are boondocking we typically wash dishes every other
night. We might only turn on the WH while we're eating supper so there will
be hot water for that chore OR of course if we're gonna take showers.
Otherwise we usually leave it off. In this case I'm pretty sure firing the burner once in 48 hours is gonna use less LP than leaving it on 48 hours. It typically re-fires at least 4 times a day if it's left on. That flue running right up the middle of the WH tank is drawing out the heat when it's not on.
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Old 10-17-2015, 08:59 AM   #15
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To me this seems like a silly discussion.... we are talking about pennies while we spend thousands on this hobby.

The first time DW has to wash her hands in cold water, any money saved will be spent on dinner out to "warm" her back up.
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Old 10-17-2015, 09:21 AM   #16
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To me this seems like a silly discussion.... we are talking about pennies while we spend thousands on this hobby.

The first time DW has to wash her hands in cold water, any money saved will be spent on dinner out to "warm" her back up.
I suppose you might say that but we like to be frugal when possible.
I don't consider a $30+ tank refill to be pennies and I have to lug it to
a hardware store that is 10 miles and several stop lights away.
AND it usually wakes me up when it fires during the night.
To each his own fer sure....

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I guess I am stupid. First...what is dry camping? I will admit. I am spoiled. I want electric and water. I am also VERY conservative. I just assumed you should turn it off when not using it. I will tell you that we are different. That would be for a different topic.


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I suppose you might say that but we like to be frugal when possible.
I don't consider a $30+ tank refill to be pennies and I have to lug it to
a hardware store that is 10 miles and several stop lights away.
AND it usually wakes me up when it fires during the night.
To each his own fer sure....

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$30 a tank? I live in Canada and we pay double for everything and I pay only $18 for 30 lbs at Costco. I would say you are getting a bad deal for propane.
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For those that turn them off, I hope you do the same at home where you can save big bucks and not pennies.

Don't forget your home furnace either.
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I suppose you might say that but we like to be frugal when possible.
I don't consider a $30+ tank refill to be pennies and I have to lug it to
a hardware store that is 10 miles and several stop lights away.
AND it usually wakes me up when it fires during the night.
To each his own fer sure....

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Point taken, and I did consider the costs and thought the thread might be on to something...

Propane is a lot cheaper for me, I pay $18 on the reservation near my house for 30#. I did the math, assuming the .2lbs mentioned earlier was correct, it is only like 12 cents difference to leave the tank on. Even if I take DW out of the equation, that's not enough savings for me to have to wash my hands in cold water, or wait for the tank to heat back up.
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