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Old 08-06-2016, 01:22 AM   #11
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Howdy.

After a great 5,000 mile national park trip borrowing my parents camper (Old 23' sunline bunkhouse). We are looking at the possibility of getting a 2306 or a 23LB.

I'll be towing with a '14 GMC 2500 Duramax. Not really any weight or capacity concerns. I'm familiar with how junky trailer brakes are and how picky the GMC is about them (the resistance of the magnets). I'd *love* to put electric over hydraulic brakes on whatever I get, but that'll never actually happen.

I'm just starting a thread to ask specific questions, since there isn't much around to actually go see. We'd like used for the price, but are finding the rvdirect to have better *new* pricing than many people ask used. So, my questions...

1. The furnace runs on 12v, right?
2. the water heater runs on propane and also doesn't need 110v, right?
3. any reason to stay away from the electric awning? It's adjustable for water runoff, right? Do you have to adjust it every time?
4. what the heck is oyster exterior? the brown instead of white (for +$300)? keyed roof, what is that?
5. where would the "extra maxxair" vent go? the first/normal one is in the bathroom, I assume. Are these units remote controlled? They *are* 12 volts, right?
6. the heated mattress is 12v?
7. Is there an inverter of any sort built in?
8. What does it have for 12V power ports? 110V plugs?
9. The TV is 12V?
9b. The fridge is propane or 110V, right? When on propane, 12V ignites/runs it.
10. as you can see, I'm trying to make 100% sure everything is functional on 12V (or at least know ahead of time what isn't). I'll be putting on a a notable amount of battery power and probably an inverter. My dad is pretty into that stuff, so he'll guide me and help me weld up a nice frame to hold them.

11. What dictates the couch material? Some seem leather, some cloth.
12. any benefit to the 2306 or the 23LB over the other?
13. the 2016s have additional couch-side storage. Anything else new on the new ones?
14. are the tank heaters worth anything? pretty power intensive, I'd think. Certainly not a winter-able camper...

I'd imagine I'll have more......
1. yes
2. yes
3. no, yes, yes
4. don't know; I would think oyster would be a lighter color
5. in the living room- replaces a regular vent; ours does not have a remote
6. don't know
7. I think it should have an inverter but don't know that for sure
8. don't know
9. probably not, but they do make them
10. Dad's know a lot...
11. Probably faux leather, but there's nothing better than leather; our lounge chairs are leather but our couch is faux.
12. don't have a clue
13. same as 12
14. only if you live where it freezes during the winter and there's something in your tanks and you're hooked up to shore power
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Old 08-08-2016, 07:56 AM   #12
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The only reason I used caps, was to show my responses, from your type.
I'm using smartphone and don't know how to change font color.
Not warnings.
Haha, fair enough.
Thanks, regardless.
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Old 08-08-2016, 11:47 AM   #13
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I will answer below what I can...I have a 2017 2306... My responses are in red...we love our 2306!

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Howdy.

After a great 5,000 mile national park trip borrowing my parents camper (Old 23' sunline bunkhouse). We are looking at the possibility of getting a 2306 or a 23LB.

I'll be towing with a '14 GMC 2500 Duramax. Not really any weight or capacity concerns. I'm familiar with how junky trailer brakes are and how picky the GMC is about them (the resistance of the magnets). I'd *love* to put electric over hydraulic brakes on whatever I get, but that'll never actually happen.

I'm just starting a thread to ask specific questions, since there isn't much around to actually go see. We'd like used for the price, but are finding the rvdirect to have better *new* pricing than many people ask used. So, my questions...

1. The furnace runs on 12v, right? YES
2. the water heater runs on propane and also doesn't need 110v, right? YES
3. any reason to stay away from the electric awning? It's adjustable for water runoff, right? Do you have to adjust it every time? We have been camping 3 times with it since purchasing this spring and LOVE the awing. It is easy to adjust if you need to due to wind or rain, but it is designed so that it will collapse and shed water if it gets too heavy.
4. what the heck is oyster exterior? the brown instead of white (for +$300)? keyed roof, what is that? Not sure...we bought ours off the lot and did not pay attention to the colors
5. where would the "extra maxxair" vent go? the first/normal one is in the bathroom, I assume. Are these units remote controlled? They *are* 12 volts, right? Ours has a vent in the bathroom and one over the front bed. The bathroom is the only one with a fan. Ours does not have a remote control.
6. the heated mattress is 12v? Yes...love that feature...we had heated mattresses in our pop-up that we traded in and were happy to see it in this thing too!
7. Is there an inverter of any sort built in? Yes, that is pretty standard as it keeps the battery charged when on shore power.
8. What does it have for 12V power ports? 110V plugs? Ours has a charging station by the bed with USB plugs for phones and ipads and such, as well as 110 Plugs on both sides of the bed. There are plenty of plug ins for our family of 4.
9. The TV is 12V? I am not sure on this one...have never tried to use it when not on shore power. The radio will work on 12V.
9b. The fridge is propane or 110V, right? When on propane, 12V ignites/runs it. Yes and Yes...we leave ours on the Auto setting and it will automatically ignite the propane if it loses shore power.
10. as you can see, I'm trying to make 100% sure everything is functional on 12V (or at least know ahead of time what isn't). I'll be putting on a a notable amount of battery power and probably an inverter. My dad is pretty into that stuff, so he'll guide me and help me weld up a nice frame to hold them.

11. What dictates the couch material? Some seem leather, some cloth. I guess it would be an option...ours came with the leather looking stuff.
12. any benefit to the 2306 or the 23LB over the other?
13. the 2016s have additional couch-side storage. Anything else new on the new ones? Our 2306 is the non-murphy bed model, but it has a HUGE storage area where the bed would fold down into...
14. are the tank heaters worth anything? pretty power intensive, I'd think. Certainly not a winter-able camper... When we picked up our camper, they said the heaters are not made for super cold camping and should really not be used when the temperature is below 32.

I'd imagine I'll have more......
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Old 08-08-2016, 12:01 PM   #14
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Thanks for the input, for sure.

We've looked at the longer ones, but are really trying to stay compact. Places like Many Glacier (been there, want to go back) and Hoh Rainforest (plan to go there) have size restrictions. We're already technically over their 20' limit, but have already fit just fine with the 23' TT we borrowed. They must mean body size.........yeah.........that's it.........we're a 20' TT.........just ignore that tongue business.

I do think it's nice that there are other options though. Seems like in the olden days you'd jump from a 23' to a 34' without much in between. I'd like the larger pantry/closet of the larger unit(s), but it's a compromise we're willing to make.

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Old 08-08-2016, 03:44 PM   #15
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maccve is incorrect regarding it having an inverter.
It has a CONVERTER.
All RVs come with converters.
Few come with INverters.
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Thank you....I was incorrect....yes they were wanting to use battery power and convert it to 110....


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Old 08-12-2016, 07:02 AM   #17
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The TV is AC not DC. The Sapphire package, tint is embeded on the adhesive so if is scratched, it will not show as easy. The water heater runs on both AC and Propane/DC (igniter); Fridge runs on AC/Propane (DC is for the igniter). 2 fans is great; run one and keep the other off. They are strong enough to create a draft inside. One pulls air in, the other vent lets it out. You can reverse the flow by alternating which fan can be on or off. Windows open, turn both on. The camper is too air tight to have both running, you can hear the fan going faster and no draft inside.

On the water heater, you can run both at the same time for faster heat up time; imperative to have water in it obviously. Tank is small about 6 Gl capacity; use wisely, Navy Shower and you will have enough hot water. Stays pretty hot in the cold days; I mean, about 30 F outside temp.

We camped at 30 deg weather and perhaps a bit lower in the night. A 1500 electric space heater work wonders, propane works good too. When docked, use the space heater, save your propane. I am surprised is not sold as a 4 season camper. The build is very closed to the Artic Foxes.

Ours has a water filter in the system, also bought an inline water filter as a pre-filter. That way, the inside filter last longer and use the outside cheaper ones to take most of the crap out. Bought some brass quick disconnects for the hoses with ball type valves. Works really nice connecting the hoses like an air hose and minimize the risk of crossthreading the plastic fittings. Makes a breeze to flush the Black Water Tank. Ours came with tank heaters, another winter feature and the Camper is not advertised as a 4 Season.
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Old 08-12-2016, 10:32 AM   #18
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Remove the inside water filter and replace it with a coupler. Use an outside filter. Too many threads here about the inside filter cracking and flooding trailers.
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Old 08-12-2016, 11:34 AM   #19
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I thought about it and thanks for the insight; where did you got the coupler?

I see that you placed the filter at the trailer. I got mine at the utility In side with the pressure reductor on the out side of the filter. The reasoning was to force the water at higher pressure on the filter, reduce pressure and keep clean filter water through the hose to prevent bacteria from growing inside the hose.
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Got the coupler at Menards. 1/2 in. 67 cents. Usually have the filter at the faucet, just had it at the TT while working.
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