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Old 08-05-2016, 09:28 AM   #1
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Looking @ 2306

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After a great 5,000 mile national park trip borrowing my parents camper (Old 23' sunline bunkhouse). We are looking at the possibility of getting a 2306 or a 23LB.

I'll be towing with a '14 GMC 2500 Duramax. Not really any weight or capacity concerns. I'm familiar with how junky trailer brakes are and how picky the GMC is about them (the resistance of the magnets). I'd *love* to put electric over hydraulic brakes on whatever I get, but that'll never actually happen.

I'm just starting a thread to ask specific questions, since there isn't much around to actually go see. We'd like used for the price, but are finding the rvdirect to have better *new* pricing than many people ask used. So, my questions...

1. The furnace runs on 12v, right?
2. the water heater runs on propane and also doesn't need 110v, right?
3. any reason to stay away from the electric awning? It's adjustable for water runoff, right? Do you have to adjust it every time?
4. what the heck is oyster exterior? the brown instead of white (for +$300)? keyed roof, what is that?
5. where would the "extra maxxair" vent go? the first/normal one is in the bathroom, I assume. Are these units remote controlled? They *are* 12 volts, right?
6. the heated mattress is 12v?
7. Is there an inverter of any sort built in?
8. What does it have for 12V power ports? 110V plugs?
9. The TV is 12V?
9b. The fridge is propane or 110V, right? When on propane, 12V ignites/runs it.
10. as you can see, I'm trying to make 100% sure everything is functional on 12V (or at least know ahead of time what isn't). I'll be putting on a a notable amount of battery power and probably an inverter. My dad is pretty into that stuff, so he'll guide me and help me weld up a nice frame to hold them.

11. What dictates the couch material? Some seem leather, some cloth.
12. any benefit to the 2306 or the 23LB over the other?
13. the 2016s have additional couch-side storage. Anything else new on the new ones?
14. are the tank heaters worth anything? pretty power intensive, I'd think. Certainly not a winter-able camper...

I'd imagine I'll have more......
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Old 08-05-2016, 09:43 AM   #2
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Oh yeah......

What tv antenna does it have? A nice winegard crank-up type with booster?

Just to note, we'd be going for the murphy bed option.
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Old 08-05-2016, 10:33 AM   #3
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I also own a 23lb and love it

1. The furnace runs on 12v, right? YES
2. the water heater runs on propane and also doesn't need 110v, right? CORRECT
3. any reason to stay away from the electric awning? It's adjustable for water runoff, right? Do you have to adjust it every time? I LOVE MINE
4. what the heck is oyster exterior? the brown instead of white (for +$300)? keyed roof, what is that? Love our oyster color and the frameless Windows
5. where would the "extra maxxair" vent go? the first/normal one is in the bathroom, I assume. Are these units remote controlled? They *are* 12 volts, right? 12 volts in the bathroom
6. the heated mattress is 12v? No 120
7. Is there an inverter of any sort built in? No
8. What does it have for 12V power ports? 110V plugs? One 12 volt and I think 5 120 volt outlets, I added a few more
9. The TV is 12V? No 120
9b. The fridge is propane or 110V, right? When on propane, 12V ignites/runs it. Yes
10. as you can see, I'm trying to make 100% sure everything is functional on 12V (or at least know ahead of time what isn't). I'll be putting on a a notable amount of battery power and probably an inverter. My dad is pretty into that stuff, so he'll guide me and help me weld up a nice frame to hold them.

11. What dictates the couch material? Some seem leather, some cloth. Your choose the color from 2 or 3
12. any benefit to the 2306 or the 23LB over the other? Same exact thing
13. the 2016s have additional couch-side storage. Anything else new on the new ones? A few things like added a switch on the panel for 120 volt water heater and a few other small things
14. are the tank heaters worth anything? pretty power intensive, I'd think. Certainly not a winter-able camper... Not really

I'd imagine I'll have more......
Good luck
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Old 08-05-2016, 01:52 PM   #4
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So, my questions...

1. The furnace runs on 12v, right?
YES

2. the water heater runs on propane and also doesn't need 110v, right?
CAN RUN ON BOTH

5. where would the "extra maxxair" vent go? the first/normal one is in the bathroom, I assume. Are these units remote controlled? They *are* 12 volts, right?
GOES IN THE MAIN AREA'S VENT. YES 12V.

6. the heated mattress is 12v?
NO, 110V AC ONLY

7. Is there an inverter of any sort built in?
NO

9b. The fridge is propane or 110V, right? When on propane, 12V ignites/runs it.
YES

10. as you can see, I'm trying to make 100% sure everything is functional on 12V (or at least know ahead of time what isn't). I'll be putting on a a notable amount of battery power and probably an inverter. My dad is pretty into that stuff, so he'll guide me and help me weld up a nice frame to hold them.
IF YOU PLAN ON DRY CAMPING, YOU NEED TO CONSIDER OTHER THINGS THAN JUST 12V POWER.
I just answered the questions I know about.
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Hello aeblank, welcome aboard. We have a 2012 23lb and love it. Although I wish we had a slide for some addition floor space but the trailer has been good to us. We are looking to upgrade soon for the double bunk bed floor plans.

Sorry I don't understand electricity so I'm not much help with your questions around that.

Other than colors there really isn't anything different between the 2306 and the 23lb.


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IF YOU PLAN ON DRY CAMPING, YOU NEED TO CONSIDER OTHER THINGS THAN JUST 12V POWER.
I have been camping with and without (mostly without, as I think back) hookups for most all of my life (I'm 37). I'm not too concerned about dry camping, and maybe things are "normal" for me that aren't for others. However, your ALL CAPS warning sounds dire and it has piqued my interest. Other than all the systems working without AC (you know, an AC-only water heater), having water, and having adequate grey/black storage for however long, and reasonable battery power..........I'm not sure what other concerns there would be.

One thing that would certainly be interesting is the parasitic loads on a modern TT versus my parents' rig that's 20+ years old. Read a post where someone's battery went dead after a day, without being plugged in. Something would have to change there!

Anyway, thanks for the answers to my questions. I do appreciate it.
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#4 Oyster exterior - dust and/or dirt won't show as much and keep it cleaner looking. Worth it to me. But we're all different.

#5 extra Maxxair vent - worth it when not using the a/c. turn them both on for a flow thru breeze with or without the bathroom door open.

#11 couch leather - It's not leather, but leather-like, probably vinyl.


One thing I wonder knowing you are looking for bunks, can you handle an extra 26" and move up to a much roomier trailer with either the 2504S or the 2505S. Both have bunks and are 25'9" and 25'7" respectively, whereas the 2306 has no slide and is less roomy with a length of 23'7". Your TV should handle it no problem. You might like the extra space the longer you camp. Just my 2cents.
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Thanks for the input, for sure.

We've looked at the longer ones, but are really trying to stay compact. Places like Many Glacier (been there, want to go back) and Hoh Rainforest (plan to go there) have size restrictions. We're already technically over their 20' limit, but have already fit just fine with the 23' TT we borrowed. They must mean body size.........yeah.........that's it.........we're a 20' TT.........just ignore that tongue business.

I do think it's nice that there are other options though. Seems like in the olden days you'd jump from a 23' to a 34' without much in between. I'd like the larger pantry/closet of the larger unit(s), but it's a compromise we're willing to make.

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Thanks for the input, for sure.

We've looked at the longer ones, but are really trying to stay compact. Places like Many Glacier (been there, want to go back) and Hoh Rainforest (plan to go there) have size restrictions.....
Andy

I completely understand. We did the same thing when we bought our Roo as it is only 21'9" without the bed slide out. Around 25' when it's out give or take (We've never measured). Our Ontario Provincial parks have a lot more sites to choose from if you're under 24' and that was our original plan when we chose the Roo - that and the fact that finding a brand new 2011 unit on a dealer's lot in Spring of 2015 we basically got it pretty cheap.

However, after buying the Roo, it only took me one and a bit summers to decide I want more space. I thought I'd be fine with it the way it is, but we spend 30+ nights in it in total per summer and that's a lot of time in cramped quarters, specially if you get rain. If one of us are at the kitchen counter in our unit and the other wants to get in the bathroom, we have to move out of the way for the other to pass by and we're not especially large people. Also I must admit that spending the winter in a 38' 5th wheel with 3 slide outs and then come home to summer camp in a trailer that has none with the exception of the bed slide which does not make it any wider doesn't help.

Anyway, you have to do what's right for your needs. Good luck with your search!
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I have been camping with and without (mostly without, as I think back) hookups for most all of my life (I'm 37). I'm not too concerned about dry camping, and maybe things are "normal" for me that aren't for others. However, your ALL CAPS warning sounds dire and it has piqued my interest. Other than all the systems working without AC (you know, an AC-only water heater), having water, and having adequate grey/black storage for however long, and reasonable battery power..........I'm not sure what other concerns there would be.

One thing that would certainly be interesting is the parasitic loads on a modern TT versus my parents' rig that's 20+ years old. Read a post where someone's battery went dead after a day, without being plugged in. Something would have to change there!

Anyway, thanks for the answers to my questions. I do appreciate it.
The only reason I used caps, was to show my responses, from your type.

I'm using smartphone and don't know how to change font color.

Not warnings.
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