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Old 07-04-2013, 10:43 PM   #1
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Thumbs up New Rig, 5er Tips for Evolution/Short Box Ford King Ranch

Hello all,

We have just traded our 2703SS for a 8289WS Diamond. Bought Reese elite hitch and have a 5 1/2 ft box so I am using the Revolution. Towed lots of things in the past and have a large straight truck licence. What should be careful with a fifth wheel vs a TT, knowing the 2703SS is a real pain to tow.

Thanks everyone.. Hope to hit the road on the 11th when we take delivery.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:05 PM   #2
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Hope you have the max payload package as well.
That fifth will tow like a dream, so no worries there.
I had a friend tow my fifth with his EcoBeast and it handled it very well. And many on this site have said they towed similar rigs through the mountains with ease, although I suspect they may have been fibbing, just a tad.
I think you will be quite pleased.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:27 PM   #3
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The King Ranch in Canada has a 7650 GVWR rating with a Locking 3.73 and when checked the truck can haul the trailer with 1800 lbs to spare fully loaded. Packages same to have different names but same towing capacity based upon the door post sticker. 1 have 20 inch wheels and Perelli tires I will switch out to heavier rating. The integral sway control kept the 2703SS straight on several trips this year.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:36 PM   #4
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The King Ranch in Canada has a 7650 GVWR rating with a Locking 3.73 and when checked the truck can haul the trailer with 1800 lbs to spare fully loaded. Packages same to have different names but same towing capacity based upon the door post sticker. 1 have 20 inch wheels and Perelli tires I will switch out to heavier rating. The integral sway control kept the 2703SS straight on several trips this year.
Yes, you will want really good tires under your truck. That's a lightweight camper, but it ain't that light!
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The King Ranch in Canada has a 7650 GVWR rating with a Locking 3.73 and when checked the truck can haul the trailer with 1800 lbs to spare fully loaded. Packages same to have different names but same towing capacity based upon the door post sticker. 1 have 20 inch wheels and Perelli tires I will switch out to heavier rating. The integral sway control kept the 2703SS straight on several trips this year.
Bakken is referring to the HD Payload option which increases the truck's GVWR to 8200 lbs and also includes LT tires...I believe this option isn't available with the King Ranch trim level.

You'll be surprised how much better towing is with a 5th wheel compared to a TT. There are a few differences with tracking in turns and backing up, but you'll soon figure it out.

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Bakken is referring to the HD Payload option which increases the truck's GVWR to 8200 lbs and also includes LT tires...I believe this option isn't available with the King Ranch trim level.

You'll be surprised how much better towing is with a 5th wheel compared to a TT. There are a few differences with tracking in turns and backing up, but you'll soon figure it out.

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Thanks for the clarification Dave.
That is what my friend's EcoBeast had, and like I say, it handled my fifth very, very well. And it didn't ride like a wagon like my old diesel!
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that trailer has a 1500plus pin weight empty, add batteries, propane, and stuff including the 5er hitch and you will now be looking at over 2k or real close to that on the axle of the truck.. hope it does not sag too much
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Hello ,
RGAWR is 4050, Max Tow is 11,200, GVWR is 7,650, GCWR 17,200, GTW 9,350 Gives me a Max 9,550 Tow weight and 2,388 King pin weight. If the add in cargo and deduct this I am still with my axle rating. The King Ranch is not available with max payload but a 7650 GVWR package so that is were I get my margin from for the trailer, cargo and people in the truck. Changin Gears was used to calculate.


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#2300 lb king pin weight seem like a lot for a 1/2 ton, I am sitting just a little over that on my truck and I added airbags to level her out and get rid of the bucking.. remember when you are driving down the road that trailer will be bouncing and putting lots more pressure on the axle.. I fill my bags to 65psi and on some expansion joints I can watch the gauge go to 100psi or higher. my RGAWR is 6084lbs and I am right at that limit with 2400lbs pin weight. and I have a 11.5 axle. get her weighed and see what is actually on the axles, my coach says 1675 pin and 10,550 on a brochure but the yellow sticker says 11.5. advertised weights are never correct..
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RGAWR is 4050, Max Tow is 11,200, GVWR is 7,650, GCWR 17,200, GTW 9,350 Gives me a Max 9,550 Tow weight and 2,388 King pin weight. If the add in cargo and deduct this I am still with my axle rating. The King Ranch is not available with max payload but a 7650 GVWR package so that is were I get my margin from for the trailer, cargo and people in the truck. Changin Gears was used to calculate.
Weighing your set-up is always eye-opening. If the calculation determines a max pin weight of 2388 lb, it assumes that the truck's curb weight is 5262 lb (7650 - 2388)...I think you'll find that the truck weighs well north of 6000 lb. What does the door pillar sticker say for payload?

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