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Old 05-28-2015, 05:35 PM   #11
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I appreciate the thoughts. I am still not convinced if it helps either. Just looking for any thing that might help on the preventive side.


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Old 05-28-2015, 05:58 PM   #12
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I use 79% nitrogen in my tires.............it comes straight out of the air compressor.

LOL... that's funny
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Old 05-28-2015, 06:01 PM   #13
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Nitro, will run the tire temp cooler, as far as the vacuum. If they use the machines it will vacuum out any air in them. That is the main reason they use it in Plane tires, Also your PSI is more stable then compressed air. It is also supposed to stop tire rot. Compressed air has water molecules in it to where Nito is dry. This is the reasons right or wrong. When I changed tires I did not buy it, just plain old air.
I would figure altitude would be the most important factor in planes...

also it's a good sales and marketing technique for vehicles and RVs... hello look at all the tire discussion here
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I would figure altitude would be the most important factor in planes...

also it's a good sales and marketing technique for vehicles and RVs... hello look at all the tire discussion here
That's ture if your landing on a cloud..
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I appreciate the thoughts. I am still not convinced if it helps either. Just looking for any thing that might help on the preventive side.
Best preventive measures are run max cold pressure and DO NOT CURB tires.
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Old 05-28-2015, 06:21 PM   #16
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I'm no chemist, but I know Costco puts N2 in their tires, also.
Of course that didn't help when I hit a big pot hole.

Moral of story, N2 won't help if the tire pressure is low.

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Old 05-28-2015, 07:19 PM   #17
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FR does it because it's the latest marketing 'fad' and people haven't done enough of their own due diligence to figure out it's a load of hooey yet. LOL

A case of 'give the customer what they want'....
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Marketing ploy to make unit sound better as well as the slower loss of pressure means that tires do not need to be filled while sitting on mfg or dealers lots. Probably has some benefit, but not worth the cost to find and use.
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Moisture in an airplane tire will freeze at 35,000 ft. Then 15 minutes later, you try to land on it. Makes sense to use N2 w/out moisture.

I can't really say what it may or may not do for a race car at 200 mph. But my vehicles never go 200 mph. So it seems to me to be an argument similar to this: Since radiation treatments can kill cancer, I should have a radiation treatment even if I don't have cancer, just because "look what it does for cancer." So since it might do something for a 200 mph race car, I just KNOW it must be doing something for my 60 mph TT.

I've been using 79% N2 every tire on every car and TT I've ever owned with no issues that would have been avoided if only I'd had 100% N2 in them.

I'm convinced it's a waste of time/money etc for our purposes.
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Based on my Boeing research, unless your vehicle can accelerate to 150 mph in less than 2 miles with a dragging brake and then fold the wheels up into an enclosed box, save your money.

There was an incident with a 727 out of Washington National back in the 1970's where this scenario developed. A main-gear tire, inflated with air, blew at about 18,000 feet on climb-out and punched an 18" diameter hole in the pressure bulkhead. Two USPS mailbags restricted the hole and prevented a floor collapse and a probable crash. Analysis of the tire suggested that the explosion (spontaneous combustion) had exceeded 12,000 psi before the tire failed.

The FAA and Boeing made nitrogen compulsory after this incident

Nitrogen is not necessary in road-vehicle tires.
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