REAL Tongue Weight 2706ws

[Pristine1]

Hi all! Has anyone weighed their 2706ws or very similar rockwood ultra light at the scales to figure out its loaded tongue weight? I’m in the middle of purchasing a 2018 private party. Just waiting for some warranty work to be done.

Anyways, I purchased an Equalizer Hitch for 300 bucks the other day. Only been used 3 times. Pretty much brand new. The ad originally said 1200 lb model but it ended up being the 1400 lb one.

The 2706ws advertised hitch weight looks to be 800-840lbs
Unloaded weight around 6700. GVWR 8800
Mine has the front bedroom a/c as well so that should add a smidge of tongue weight. Buying this trailer I estimated I would be around 1000-1100 lbs tongue weight loaded up. So I thought the 1200 bars would be perfect and give me a little extra room if I ended up being heavier.

The real question is, is the 1400 bars possibly overkill or just right? If I could get anybodies actual tongue weights that would be great. Thank you guys!

[pojp58]

I have the same TT. I use a tongue weight scale to check mine now and then. I also use the Husky WDH which helps tremendously. Your tag should say what the tongue wgt can be with WDH.



My tongue wgt will vary depending on what I bring but all you have to do is adjust your load in front or be hind the TT axle to adjust your tongue wgt to what you need it to be.



The WDH will give you a bigger window.


Love the 2706. Best TT ever owned. Im knocking on wood right now.

[rockfordroo]

Don't have one, but if your GVWR is 8800 lbs, I'd guesstimate your TW at about 1100 lbs.

TW usually runs 10-15% of GVWR; so assuming 13%, that's 1144 lbs.

Unless someone gives you a real number, (which BTW, may not match your actual, since you may load more/less stuff and in different places) it's conservative to assume about 1100 lbs.

Don't forget to add another 75 lbs or so for a weight distribution hitch.

[TheWolfPaq82]

Tongue weight and Trailer weight have only ONE variable. HOW MUCH STUFF YOU PUT IN THERE. Once loaded, everyone's Tongue weight and trailer weight is going to vary.

[rockfordroo]

Originally Posted by TheWolfPaq82

Tongue weight and Trailer weight have only ONE variable. HOW MUCH STUFF YOU PUT IN THERE. Once loaded, everyone's Tongue weight and trailer weight is going to vary.

TW can vary based on how you load it; i.e., by how much load is in front of or behind the axles. For example, bikes on the back vs bikes on the front. You DO have "some" control over the TW. But until you load and weigh it, you won't know for sure.

[Chuck_S]

Conventional trailers require a minimum 10% of their weight on the ball for safe towing. That's 880 pounds according to the data posted. 10% is the minimum and up to 15% or 1320 pounds may be needed so a 1400 pound WDH is appropriate.

Don't overthink this and don't deal in minutiae.

-- Chuck

[Pristine1]

Originally Posted by pojp58

I have the same TT. I use a tongue weight scale to check mine now and then. I also use the Husky WDH which helps tremendously. Your tag should say what the tongue wgt can be with WDH.



My tongue wgt will vary depending on what I bring but all you have to do is adjust your load in front or be hind the TT axle to adjust your tongue wgt to what you need it to be.



The WDH will give you a bigger window.


Love the 2706. Best TT ever owned. Im knocking on wood right now.

Nice to hear! They certainly seem like a good all around unit. Looking forward to picking it up and playing with it. I am planning on getting a tongue weight scale so I can mess around with loading to make sure I have enough tongue weight.

Since you have been weighing your tongue weight. What weights are you coming in at?

Thanks!

[Pristine1]

Yes I do tend to over think things Chuck. All too often. My big thing here is, my first drive may be about a 12 hour drive home. Just depends on where I actually have to pick this thing up. We’re waiting on logistics depending on this warranty work the trailer needs.

My plan is to bring a tongue weight scale with me. Load up the pass through storage with a few items like tools, misc items and generator. Then hit the first scales in my route home and make adjustments as needed.

It’s looking like this 1400 lbs equalizer was a blessing in disguise. I didn’t have the hitches weight in my tongue weight estimate. So by the time I hit just say an estimated 1100 lbs tongue weight plus the hitches weight I should be close to 1200 lbs. Which is about between the 1000-1400lbs rating of the hitch. This first pull I might be on the low side since it won’t be fully loaded for camping but I’ll bring enough stuff to play with the weight some.

Appreciate all the input guys!

[deereman1026]

I have the sister Flagstaff 2018 RBWS, with my average camping gear in storage area the TW is around 1150lbs. measured with a TW scale with empty tanks, the FW and one gray tank are in the rear and one gray tank just in front of axles. I use the Equalizer 1200# bars but the 1400# bars should be just fine.
Hope this helps
P.S. Love my layout of TT

[S Spackler]

I have the 2018 2706ws, I haven’t weighed the hitch but I started off with the 1200lb bars and they worked good, and I put about 40-50 psi in my Airbags to fine tune. I bought 1400lb bars because I thought I needed them, and with the same amount of links off as the 1200lb bars with the trailer loaded the same I got real sharp bouncing off the the tongue of the trailer while driving, so I dropped the chains 1 link but then the bars barley had any tension on them, so I put my 1200 lb bars back on at the original settings and the sharp jolts went away while driving, I think the 1400lb bars didn’t flex enough. By the way I have 2 6v batteries up front with full propane tanks and a half full front storage compartment. If I were to guess my tongue weight would be around 1000-1100lbs

[Pristine1]

Originally Posted by deereman1026

I have the sister Flagstaff 2018 RBWS, with my average camping gear in storage area the TW is around 1150lbs. measured with a TW scale with empty tanks, the FW and one gray tank are in the rear and one gray tank just in front of axles. I use the Equalizer 1200# bars but the 1400# bars should be just fine.
Hope this helps
P.S. Love my layout of TT

Thanks, this is good info. Good to see an approximate tongue weight to work with. Right in range with what I thought it would be loaded up. Hopefully these 1400 bars do the trick.

[Pristine1]

Originally Posted by S Spackler

I have the 2018 2706ws, I haven’t weighed the hitch but I started off with the 1200lb bars and they worked good, and I put about 40-50 psi in my Airbags to fine tune. I bought 1400lb bars because I thought I needed them, and with the same amount of links off as the 1200lb bars with the trailer loaded the same I got real sharp bouncing off the the tongue of the trailer while driving, so I dropped the chains 1 link but then the bars barley had any tension on them, so I put my 1200 lb bars back on at the original settings and the sharp jolts went away while driving, I think the 1400lb bars didn’t flex enough. By the way I have 2 6v batteries up front with full propane tanks and a half full front storage compartment. If I were to guess my tongue weight would be around 1000-1100lbs

Thanks! All good info. That’s what I’m worried about. It may end up being on the too stiff side and Ill have to ride that out for a 12 hour journey home. I’m going to be traveling lite this trip but I will bring some heavy items just to make sure I have adequate tongue weight to appease these bars. I have 2 left over bags of concrete that I’ll bring for good measure. Bring just enough items to distribute weight where needed.

[Pristine1]

So I made the Journey 12 hours home from Midland, Texas to Phoenix, Arizona with the 1400 lbs Equalizer 4 Point system. It performed great. Very solid hitch set up for this combo. Did not give me any sway problems. Even in some brutal wind coming into Tucson on a rough patch of freeway. That area pushed me around some as would be expected with high winds but nothing that would concern me to feel unsafe traveling. Nothing that still wouldn’t push around a KIA. I’m very happy to say the least with the whole set up. Beautiful trailer inside as well with the maple cabinets. The wife was real impressed with her viewing when I arrived home so my mission was complete. Just have to get a few odds and ends to hit the old dusty trail. Happy Camper so far. Thanks again to you all for sharing info on your hitch set ups.

[Cropycamper]

Hubby and I are looking to purchase the 2706WS. We are looking to pull it with a brand new Half ton Yukon Denali XL. Is anyone towing one with a half ton vehicle?

[rockfordroo]

Originally Posted by Cropycamper

Hubby and I are looking to purchase the 2706WS. We are looking to pull it with a brand new Half ton Yukon Denali XL. Is anyone towing one with a half ton vehicle?

Denali's have all the bells and whistles, meaning payload is going to be low. I would strongly suggest you look at the payload sticker on the drivers door frame before you sign on the dotted line.

[TitanMike]

Originally Posted by TheWolfPaq82

Tongue weight and Trailer weight have only ONE variable. HOW MUCH STUFF YOU PUT IN THERE. Once loaded, everyone's Tongue weight and trailer weight is going to vary.

It also can vary from trip to trip depending on how much extra you carry for a long trip or how much you leave behind for short ones.


For peace of mind I bought a Sherline tongue weight scale and check tongue weight before I leave.

[bikendan]

Originally Posted by Cropycamper

Hubby and I are looking to purchase the 2706WS. We are looking to pull it with a brand new Half ton Yukon Denali XL. Is anyone towing one with a half ton vehicle?

As was said, you have a blinged out SUV, which is not the same as most 1/2 tow vehicles.
SUVs have softer suspensions and lower payloads, than an equivalent truck. Then you add the weights of all the fancy bling features, which also lowers the payload capacity number.
So you need to look at a real world tongue weight for that TT vs your Yukon's payload capacity minus the weights of everyone in the car, cargo in the car and 100lbs for the WDH.

[rockfordroo]

Here are some numbers. Looking here:

https://forestriverinc.com/rvs/trave...te/2706WS/3335

the 2706ws has a GVWR (UVW + CCC) of 6740 + 2104 = 8844 lbs. Since you can't weigh the tongue until you buy it, conservatively assume 13% of GVWR as the tongue weight, or 1150 lbs. Add 100 lbs for a WDH and you're looking at about 1250 lbs TW.

I'm guessing your Denali won't have a lot of payload left for driver, passengers and "stuff."

[mmock12]

Originally Posted by Cropycamper

Hubby and I are looking to purchase the 2706WS. We are looking to pull it with a brand new Half ton Yukon Denali XL. Is anyone towing one with a half ton vehicle?

We purchased a new 2019 2706WS back in March. Love it so far. I will say this, I was naive regarding tongue weights, tow vehicle payload capacity, and towing capacity. With propane tanks full, batteries, and WD hitch installed, it came off the lot at over 900 lbs tongue weight before I had anything in the storage compartment. My 2014 Tundra had a towing capacity over 10K, so no problem pulling the weight. But the cargo capacity was 1325, so I was maxed out with 2 pax, the dog, and an empty camper. Ended up getting a 3/4 ton pickup.

[Larry0071]

A 2019 Denali XL does not offer a max tow package or low gears. It tops out at 8,400 lbs max trailer for a non XL with no 4x4, but I have not been able to find the payload rating. The 4x4 XL tops out at 7,900 all in.

I am sure it is startlingly lower than you require for a 1,100 lb expected tongue weight plus humans that weigh likely around 200 lbs each plus all of the stuff that a person would tote in that large of an SUV. Just filling the seats with humans could put it at 1,200+ payload before you even back up to the trailer.

I hate to say this: That is a HORRIBLE tow vehicle for that heavy of a trailer. And 3.23 axle gears are the only option. YUCK! Man, that's going to be a nightmare experience. It's going to be over the legal towing numbers, very likely over the payload numbers, under powered dog with 3.23 gears. Sorry. Your in a bad situation there.