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Old 08-28-2013, 03:14 PM   #31
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My wife also might want to be back there once in awhile...

Be aware, it is not legal in some states to ride in any towed trailer, including 5th wheels.
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Old 08-28-2013, 03:47 PM   #32
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Prince,

I'd suggest you do as suggested earlier and get some weights of the truck. I highly recommend loading up who would normally go and the fill the bed of the truck to a similar camping trip. Weigh the truck in that manner and subtract that value from the GVWR of the truck. The GVWR will be on the sticker on the edge of the drivers door. The remaining value will be what the pin weight and hitch can weigh.

Truthfully this needs to be done before you can make a decision wisely.

As the bickering has gone back and forth some can load lighter and some heavier, it will definitely be something you will ALWAYS have to watch. It can be done, and it can be done safely... but you will always have to be conscious of the pin weight and how you are loading and what you are loading...

I would highly recommend air bags, regardless of which style you go with, air bags are great for dang near any truck for whatever purpose when adding weight. Air bags will help greatly with the stability of the truck when any weight is added...
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Old 08-28-2013, 03:54 PM   #33
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Prince,

I'd suggest you do as suggested earlier and get some weights of the truck. I highly recommend loading up who would normally go and the fill the bed of the truck to a similar camping trip. Weigh the truck in that manner and subtract that value from the GVWR of the truck. The GVWR will be on the sticker on the edge of the drivers door. The remaining value will be what the pin weight and hitch can weigh.

Truthfully this needs to be done before you can make a decision wisely.

As the bickering has gone back and forth some can load lighter and some heavier, it will definitely be something you will ALWAYS have to watch. It can be done, and it can be done safely... but you will always have to be conscious of the pin weight and how you are loading and what you are loading...

I would highly recommend air bags, regardless of which style you go with, air bags are great for dang near any truck for whatever purpose when adding weight. Air bags will help greatly with the stability of the truck when any weight is added...
Ok so I need to fill the gas thank and go to the scales and weigh myself in the vehicle. As I have said before Ido not plan on having anything in the truck or truck bed while towing and I can always just subtract what the wife weighs from the result. Can I go to any truck weigh station on the freeway to do this or are there special ones I need to go to?
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Old 08-28-2013, 03:59 PM   #34
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correct. Weighing the you and the truck full of fuel w/o passengers will be fine if you remember to factor them in to the equation.

DO NOT stop at the highway scales... they will rip you a new one for that.

If you are close to a farmers co-op they generally have a shack somewhere that they will weigh propane trucks and such. Generally you can go across that after hours and they will have a display you can read somewhere near by.

If you are not near a co-op find the closest truck stop/fuel station and they should have a CAT scale set up. Here you will generally have to pay for the visit but it is well worth the time! If you are at a CAT scale make sure you axles are on different plat forms to get the different weights. It would also be wise after you buy a trailer and hitch up appropriately to do this again and make sure your axles nor the entire truck is overloaded...
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:16 PM   #35
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I am close to highways and prefer CAT scales. As Alex said, make sure your truck is on separate platforms (one for the front wheels and a different one for the rear wheels). You almost have to.

Also, take a broom to make it easier to push the call button. It's a stretch standing for me (at 5' 11") and only was easy when I'd stand on my running boards. Just make sure you're on the platform when you call the weigh operator. They grab the weight almost immediately.

You'll have to tell them that it's you're first weighing (you get a discount for reweighs within a 24-hour period) and a private weighing. They'll tell you right quick that they got it and to come inside for your ticket. Costs $10 usually ($1 or $2 for reweighs).
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:11 PM   #36
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Pricevalium, I have weighed my truck and trailer twice in one week. Once last Monday when I was coming home with full waste tanks and near empty fresh and this last Friday when I was heading out with full Fresh and empty waste tanks. I don't think there was more than two hunred pounds difference on the truck, I would have to dig up the slips to give you absolute numbers. We travel light as far as added accessories in the trailer. Every year we empty the rv and decide whether we really need to carry what ever we are carrying. I think with this unit it is pretty safe to figure 1700 to 1900 pin weight unless you put absolutely nothing in the trailer. With the kitchen forward of the axles most of the items you stock are going to hit the pin side of the fulcrum. The only reverse of that is the fresh water tank and it did not seem to have that big of an impact in my weights.

I do like this floor plan but if you go with the Ecoboost plan on some air bags. As stated we use a 2500 CTD Dodge and it will put a dent in the stance on it. I won't debate it the Ecoboost is up to the task. I am a huge Ecoboost fan but the bags will make it a lot nicer to drive.

On a side note the trailer tows very nice and when I have gotten more response with thumbs up and nods of approval with this setup than I ever expected. When the slides are open it is very roomy for a smaller light weight unit. And the biggest plus of all is my wife loves it .
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:41 PM   #37
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Pricevalium, I have weighed my truck and trailer twice in one week. Once last Monday when I was coming home with full waste tanks and near empty fresh and this last Friday when I was heading out with full Fresh and empty waste tanks. I don't think there was more than two hunred pounds difference on the truck, I would have to dig up the slips to give you absolute numbers. We travel light as far as added accessories in the trailer. Every year we empty the rv and decide whether we really need to carry what ever we are carrying. I think with this unit it is pretty safe to figure 1700 to 1900 pin weight unless you put absolutely nothing in the trailer. With the kitchen forward of the axles most of the items you stock are going to hit the pin side of the fulcrum. The only reverse of that is the fresh water tank and it did not seem to have that big of an impact in my weights.

I do like this floor plan but if you go with the Ecoboost plan on some air bags. As stated we use a 2500 CTD Dodge and it will put a dent in the stance on it. I won't debate it the Ecoboost is up to the task. I am a huge Ecoboost fan but the bags will make it a lot nicer to drive.

On a side note the trailer tows very nice and when I have gotten more response with thumbs up and nods of approval with this setup than I ever expected. When the slides are open it is very roomy for a smaller light weight unit. And the biggest plus of all is my wife loves it .
Tha is for that info and yes the Ecoboost I am certain will have no problem towing that trailer. I want to make sure I do the right thing, be safe, and also not damage my truck.

Tha is everyone for your replies I really appreciate it. I will search for a scale tonight. I will see if I can find a farmers co-op first.
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My wife also might want to be back there once in awhile...

Be aware, it is not legal in some states to ride in any towed trailer, including 5th wheels.
And the person travelling in a towed trailer better does not get seasick.
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I tow the 8289 with the diamond package with my 2013 150 EcoBoost. It has no issues on the mountains, brakes fine, and handles well on side winds. I do have the heavy half with the max tow package. I paid $37,000 for mine here in Alberta.
We are quite happy so far with the unit. Best of luck!
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I tow the 8289 with the diamond package with my 2013 150 EcoBoost. It has no issues on the mountains, brakes fine, and handles well on side winds. I do have the heavy half with the max tow package. I paid $37,000 for mine here in Alberta.
We are quite happy so far with the unit. Best of luck!
Just for clarification do you have the F150 max tow package (GVWR 7650/7700) or are you referring to the max payload option (GVWR 8200)?

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