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Old 05-28-2012, 05:00 PM   #1
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Rockwood/Flagstaff floors

I have been told that the Rockwood/Flagstaff ultralight fifth wheels (and I assume camper trailers), do not use plywood on the floor, but instead something not much different from the luan used under the fiberglass in the exterior.
Has anyone who owns one of these campers looked at theirs to see what is under the carpet/linoleum?
Is this the cause of the sagging floors some have reported?
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Old 05-28-2012, 06:38 PM   #2
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After some snooping around the internet, it appears that the floors are indeed a luan/syrofoam/luan sandwich. No wonder the brochures never mention anything about the floors, as the ones that use real plywood always do.
We have always been careful to not do anything to place a concentrated load on the floor, and am now glad we did that. Using step stools with small feet, or having kids jumping around in the camper with their shoes on, would no doubt crush the styrofoam under the luan, and eventually lead to those "soft spots" that we hear about.
But I have to wonder what FR was thinking when they designed this system, other than saving money. It is simply ridiculous.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:17 PM   #3
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I am surprised no one seems concerned about the crappy floors in their campers. If I would have known about it, I would never have bought one.
I did a heck of a lot of research before buying, but never imagined that FR would put such a pathetic floor in any camper, let alone one that looks like a higher-end model. I just assumed it would be something acceptable.
I guess everyone else is satisfied with crap?
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:40 AM   #4
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as far as i know, this type of floor is used industry-wide, not just FR.

so, you should be ranting at the entire RV industry.
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Can you share the type unit you own and have used over time that you are having trouble with?
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"as far as i know, this type of floor is used industry-wide, not just FR."
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Well, it shouldn't be used by anyone!
All I know is that when I was shopping around for a camper, all of the units I was considering had real plywood floors, mostly 5/8ths tongue and groove. I mistakenly assumed that mine was similar.
It was my fault, as I was a bit curious why the brochures never mentioned anything about the floors, other than they were aluminum-framed, but I didn't pursue it. We really liked the floorplan, and were blinded by that. Dumb on my part.

sail2liv, I have an ultralight Flagstaff fifth wheel. We have not had any issues, yet. But I am no fool, and I know how weak that luan is, even if it is supported by the styrofoam. Even if they had put 3/8ths plywood down, the extra weight and cost would have been minimal, and yet the floor would have been much stronger. But I would have paid whatever it cost to have a real floor, with 5/8ths tongue and groove in my camper.
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Old 05-29-2012, 10:48 AM   #7
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"as far as i know, this type of floor is used industry-wide, not just FR."
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Well, it shouldn't be used by anyone!
All I know is that when I was shopping around for a camper, all of the units I was considering had real plywood floors, mostly 5/8ths tongue and groove. I mistakenly assumed that mine was similar.
It was my fault, as I was a bit curious why the brochures never mentioned anything about the floors, other than they were aluminum-framed, but I didn't pursue it. We really liked the floorplan, and were blinded by that. Dumb on my part.

sail2liv, I have an ultralight Flagstaff fifth wheel. We have not had any issues, yet. But I am no fool, and I know how weak that luan is, even if it is supported by the styrofoam. Even if they had put 3/8ths plywood down, the extra weight and cost would have been minimal, and yet the floor would have been much stronger. But I would have paid whatever it cost to have a real floor, with 5/8ths tongue and groove in my camper.
The floor on my 2012 Flagstaff (same as Rockwood) is solid and I don't feel anything "spongy" at all.

No use fretting about problems that don't exist.
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Old 05-29-2012, 10:59 AM   #8
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pappcam, under "normal" use, the floor will probably stand up ok. But over time, or with heavy use, your "solid" floor won't feel so solid anymore. With repeated loads from foot traffic, the styrofoam under the flexing luan will start to compress, getting worse and worse as time goes on.
You may think your floor is solid, but I'll bet you never really paid attention. Go out and jump on it in several spots, and I think you will be unpleasantly surprised.
I am not that angry with FR, as they are just building what the consumer wants. I am more angry with myself for not being a smarter consumer.
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as far as i know, this type of floor is used industry-wide, not just FR.

so, you should be ranting at the entire RV industry.
the entire industry does not use that type of floor. i had a 2013 rockwood signature ultra lite ordered and i found out about the floors. now i have a KZ SPREE 322 BUNKHOUSE ON ORDER AND I KNOW FOR SURE IT HAS A PLYWOOD FLOOR.
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I am surprised no one seems concerned about the crappy floors in their campers. If I would have known about it, I would never have bought one.
I did a heck of a lot of research before buying, but never imagined that FR would put such a pathetic floor in any camper, let alone one that looks like a higher-end model. I just assumed it would be something acceptable.
I guess everyone else is satisfied with crap?
I'm not sure what year/model, etc. you own, but it clearly states in the Rockwood brochure we used last year when purchasing our model, that the floors are vacuum bonded. I've attached a screen shot from the brochure. So isn't it buyer beware? Did you fully read the entire brochure to know what you were buying? We haven't had any issues with our floor and haven't babied it in the least. I'm not in the habit of worrying about things that MAY go wrong.
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