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Old 02-27-2011, 08:46 AM   #11
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Not sure why they didnt put a swing arm on the living room tv. Anyone know if there is enough support in the middle of the entertainment center to support a swing arm bracket?
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:33 PM   #12
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We are tossed up between the Keystone Bullett Premier or the Rockwood Signature 8312SS. What were the differences that made your decision to the Rockwood? Also, anyone pulling the 8312SS with a Ford F-150 Crew Cab 5.4L 3.5 axle? We liked the Westport with Cherry. One more...What are the cabinets like in the bunkroom when you open the? Just a rod or are there any shelves? Thanks!
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:45 PM   #13
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We are tossed up between the Keystone Bullett Premier or the Rockwood Signature 8312SS. What were the differences that made your decision to the Rockwood? Also, anyone pulling the 8312SS with a Ford F-150 Crew Cab 5.4L 3.5 axle? We liked the Westport with Cherry. One more...What are the cabinets like in the bunkroom when you open the? Just a rod or are there any shelves? Thanks!
We looked at both. We bought the Rockwood 8312SS. Hands down we felt the fit, finish and construction was much better (and we own a Keystone Passport now). We did not like the BH in the Premier nor did we like the flip around TV in that room. There was a huge gap in it which would just allow hot air in or cold air out. Nice idea but poorly executed.

Advantages to Rockwood:
1) 2 steps off the bathroom door vs. 3 on the Rockwood.
2) The BH storage in the 8312 is great. Open all 3 doors and their are full shelves(2 of them and the floor) that run the entire length.
3) Pocket doors in the front bedroom and rear BH vs. Curtains in the Premier.
4) 20' awning vs. 15 or 16' in the Premier.
5) Rear ladder in the Rockwood.
6) Outside storage under u dinette on Rockwood
7) TPO roof vs rubber on Premier
8) We liked the 33' 10" lengh vs the 35'+ on the Premier

In the end the Premier did not even make the top 3. It did look nice but that was as far as it went.

I think either TT is too much for your TV though. We will be using an F-250 and I would not consider a 1/2 ton for either unit.
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Old 02-27-2011, 11:08 PM   #14
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Cecilt==Thanks so much for your comments. I agree I think the Rockwood is much nicer inside also. I'm interested to hear that you don't think either of these would be good for us to tow. We were told by a few different dealers at the RV show that our truck wouldn't be bad for these as along as we get a good stablizer unit. Do you agree with this? We are first time at this and need all the clues of advice we can get. We are looking at this layout do you know of any other TT that all lighter with this lay out? We know about the Passport 3220BH but some things we don't like.

Curtains once again in rooms
Back bunk house is like a quad room and not entertainment area of much storage.
Also, the camp kitchen outside is smaller. The one positive to this one is it has a second awning over the camp kitchen area. You mentioned you have a Passport...which model do you have?
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Old 02-27-2011, 11:18 PM   #15
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We are two weeks away from ordering this trailer. We are getting the Tuscan Cream with Charleston interior. Are there any options that people wish they got with their unit and why? We have upgraded to the U shaped dinette slide with airbed sofa. We are also getting power jacks, ladder, extra create a breeze fan, heated mattress, raised panel refrigerator, and awnings over the slides. Do you recommend the counter extension in the kitchen? The outdoor kitchen looks great, we do a lot of primitive camping and am a bit bummed that the outdoor refrigerator is electric only. We will be pulling it with a Dodge 2500HD, unfortunately it has the Hemi. I am sure it will handle the trailer just fear the gas bill
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Old 02-27-2011, 11:28 PM   #16
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Cecilt==Thanks so much for your comments. I agree I think the Rockwood is much nicer inside also. I'm interested to hear that you don't think either of these would be good for us to tow. We were told by a few different dealers at the RV show that our truck wouldn't be bad for these as along as we get a good stablizer unit. Do you agree with this? We are first time at this and need all the clues of advice we can get. We are looking at this layout do you know of any other TT that all lighter with this lay out? We know about the Passport 3220BH but some things we don't like.

Curtains once again in rooms
Back bunk house is like a quad room and not entertainment area of much storage.
Also, the camp kitchen outside is smaller. The one positive to this one is it has a second awning over the camp kitchen area. You mentioned you have a Passport...which model do you have?
As for vehicles and towing ability: I am a bit concerned about my Dodge 2500. The truck is built to handle the load; the issue revolves around Hemi gas engine. Most dealers I have spoken to have said they wouldn't pull it with anything less then a 3/4 ton. You should call your trucks vin into your dealer and get your maximum towing capacity before making the commitment. As for other units with these features. We have been researching for months and I feel this trailer is the best deal for the total package! I heard that Dutchman was coming out with a floor plan like this in their new Aspen Trail series but all of the weights are TBA. My guess is it will be a bit heavier as it is a more cheaply built unit (particle board weighs more then real wood).
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The outdoor kitchen on the 83122ss has a microwave, (no popcorn smell inside) the premier does not and I've heard on other forums that the outdoor sink on the premier actually drains into the black tank which is a horrible design. The awning goes over both doors on the rockwood (only the main entrance on the premier). The tv is so small in the premier and I'm not a big fan of the color schemes they used inside the premier. Also, If I remember correctly, the control panel is in a horrible spot on the bullet premier. I never understood why designers would put these controls where kids could reach them. The 8312ss has the panel up nice and high and all together. I also like the fact that when I lifted the bed in the 8312ss it was all aluminum framed, as was the dinnette - the premier is not.

Tow vehicles is an endless debate - more is always better, but if you're not going cross country, you'll be fine with your truck, just take it slow and be safe.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:07 AM   #18
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We are two weeks away from ordering this trailer. We are getting the Tuscan Cream with Charleston interior. Are there any options that people wish they got with their unit and why? We have upgraded to the U shaped dinette slide with airbed sofa. We are also getting power jacks, ladder, extra create a breeze fan, heated mattress, raised panel refrigerator, and awnings over the slides. Do you recommend the counter extension in the kitchen? The outdoor kitchen looks great, we do a lot of primitive camping and am a bit bummed that the outdoor refrigerator is electric only. We will be pulling it with a Dodge 2500HD, unfortunately it has the Hemi. I am sure it will handle the trailer just fear the gas bill
We ordered every option but heated mattress and stainless steel. We debated back and forth on Tuscan Cream and Cherry. We both liked the Charleston though. Found a dealer that at least had the combo interior so I could get a sense for both colors. I did not care for the combo as I don't think the two colors compliment each other or maybe it was just the way they put TC in the Kitchen area and cherry everywhere else. Just did not flow well. In the end we went with Cherry. Just felt it would have better resale value and had a richer look. If the TC were a more birch color it would have one hands down. I was scared it would bleach out the inside or I would grow tired of it after awhile. It is definintly a color you love or hate and every Rockwood/Flagstaff uttered this same comment without me prompting them.

Your 2500 should be fine but if it is the 5.7 it will probably struggle somewhat especially if you tow in hills/mountains. We have the V-10 with 4.10 gears in our F-250 so I am not concerned with the 8312ss. This a a great layout for Rockwood and I bet it sells a ton. Only wish it had more interior kitchen storage and I would have opted to remove the outside microwave in place of more storage. We never use our interior microwave or I should say rarely.
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Oh, and I pick mine up tomorrow!
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Oh, and I pick mine up tomorrow!
SWEET!!! Were you able to negotiate a better deal?
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