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Old 01-25-2016, 08:36 PM   #1
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Rockwood ultra lite with 1/2 ton tow vehicle

Looking to get an 8288 or alternate able to be towed with half ton truck. Dealers says all are half ton towable. What have you got and towing with? How does it tow on long trips? I'm new to 5ers so help would be great. We also got a couple golden retrievers that will need some open room.

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Old 01-25-2016, 08:47 PM   #2
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That would depend on what you are towing it with. Could you give some details of TV like payload, GAWR, and GCWR for starters. I think you will find 1\2 ton is not enough.
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Old 01-25-2016, 09:00 PM   #3
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Never believe salesmen on this topic.

The FR website claims a pin weight of 1581# which says to me it'll be closer to 1700# in reality. Then add in the typical 700-1000# of cargo, batteries and propane and the pin weight could easily creep up over 2000#.

Take your 1/2 ton truck to a set of scales to find out what it weighs without the camper but with a full tank and all passengers, and compare that to the door sticker numbers. Unless you have a heavy duty payload package you'll likely be well over the rated payload capacity when you hitch up.
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NEVER believe the dealer or salesman. #1 newbie mistake.

Most 1/2 tons aren't spec'd for most 5th wheels.
Check your truck's payload capacity on the yellow driver's door sticker and start from their.
Most 1/2 tons don't have the payloads capacity for 5th wheel pin weights.
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Old 01-25-2016, 10:27 PM   #5
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We have a '12 Ram 1500 with max tow pkg. from factory, 10,000 lbs. Payload is only 1200 lbs.
Be careful with your numbers, someone might have to stay home. Just kidding. I wouldn't feel comfortable with that setup.
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My two cents worth......

I avoided a 5th wheel not because of the trailer weight but because of the pin weight. The pin weight would have been border line for my pickup and I was just not willing to push it to that point or to add spring support. I also was not ready to replace my pickup. Also remember that you have to include people and cargo as part of your weight figures. I could have snuck by with just my wife and I but add a couple of bikes and a couple of grandkids and I would be over and I personally did not want to max out my tow vehicle. I always want to have extra margin. Yes, the salesman will always tell you it will work because they want to sell the unit.

This being said, there are those out there that are pulling 5ers with a half ton. I believe they usually beef up the suspension but they are doing it.

Good advice above. Look at the capacity for your tow vehicle and compare to the weight of the trailer. Add a couple hundred pounds extra for the pin weight because it is never correct and also make sure you have enough gross capacity with your pickup with your trailer loaded. My gross on ours is well within limits however, factory tongue weight on our pull behind is 960 but it actually weights in excess of 1100 pounds.

Now, the new lighter pickups are rated to carry more so it will be interesting what happens with them in relation to heavier trailers.


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I don't have the tv yet. Now Im fine 2500hd 8.1 gas Allison transmission. I wanted to down size to a light weight f150. Being here in the rust belt and it being my main vehicle. Pin weight is the main concern. Anybody towing with the new light weight truck?

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So as you can see this 2650 has three slides and is half ton towable. Come on really?
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I don't have the tv yet. Now Im fine 2500hd 8.1 gas Allison transmission. I wanted to down size to a light weight f150. Being here in the rust belt and it being my main vehicle. Pin weight is the main concern. Anybody towing with the new light weight truck?

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So as you can see this 2650 has three slides and is half ton towable. Come on really?

Hitch weight 1300 lbs
Dry weight 7300 lbs

Leave the wife, kids, dogs and gear at home. A 3/4 ton would be better but I like that additional capacity (wife likes to shop) so I would go SRW 1 ton. Just sayin'.
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Yes all Rockwood products fall under half-ton towable.
They all say that but it's based only on UVW weight and doesn't account for pin weight. Everyone agrees that with a 1/2 ton pickup, the weakest point is payload capacity.

The new Ford F-150 with aluminum body may have better payload numbers but to be safe you'd really want to get their heavy duty payload option.
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BTW, if you're looking at the Rockwood 2650WS now, think about how much usable space you want under the awning. On that model with a rear slide on the campground side and a wardrobe slide at the front, IMO it will limit usable space under the awning.
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