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Old 01-29-2013, 09:19 AM   #1
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New to the forum and I have been looking around for awhile. I've decided to ask for some input or advice on my problem,
I have a 2608ss rockwood ultra that we picked up last july, only been out a few times as we have a new little one with us, I tow with a 04 f-150, and have pulled our previous campers and other trailers without issue. I use a curt #800 wd with a reese add-on duel cam setup, pulls pretty straight and true however the camper rolls on its own suspension, which is a dexter rubber torsion.
I've spoke with the dealer, forest river warranty dept and a dexter axle engineer all gave the I'll have to get back to you type of response, I think this is the issue camper weigt sticker.jpg shipping weight is #5787, I think my axles are undersized even for the dry weight of this camper
any help would be appreciated.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:08 AM   #2
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Take The camper and weigh it empty and loaded for camping, you should have 10 to 20% on the tongue. If not you better fix that
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:16 AM   #3
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I'm pretty new to this but here is my take on the sticker.

3,000 on each of two axles = 6,000
tongue weight of 698 added = GVWR of 6698

More discussion on this here: gvwr and trailer construction
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:29 AM   #4
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I'm pretty new to this but here is my take on the sticker.

3,000 on each of two axles = 6,000
tongue weight of 698 added = GVWR of 6698
That is exactly how they caculate what axle to use is axles + tongue or pin weight to meet their gvwr and then they can cheap out on the axles. Still legal and safe (just barely though) in the eyes of the law and us ordinary folk.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:49 AM   #5
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I'm pretty new to this but here is my take on the sticker.

3,000 on each of two axles = 6,000
tongue weight of 698 added = GVWR of 6698

More discussion on this here: gvwr and trailer construction
x3 - that is how it is calculated.

If your shipping weight is accurate (and for the record, it rarely ever is) you have around 900 pounds left for cargo. More likely less.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:49 AM   #6
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The Forest River site don't list a 2608SS anymore, just a 2608WS. It shows a CCC of 962 lbs...yours is a little less than the spec number due to options that wouldn't be included in the spec.

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Old 01-29-2013, 11:37 AM   #7
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Those torsion axle setups tend to roll from side to side a little more than spring hung suspensions. You can add shocks to it, there's even a thread here where someone did that, but I'm not sure it's worth the trouble if it's not terribly bad.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:18 PM   #8
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I appreciate the quick replies, I did weight the camper on the way home from the dealer when we bought it, the cat scales showed it to be 5500 and while I did not weight the tongue by itself. I figured between 800-850,this is substantially less than the outback 23krs we traded for it even though it is quite a bit larger. Once the snow is gone Ill weight it loaded, but I estimate #350 of "stuff" as it sits now.
I also noticed that a 2608ss isn't listed any longer, I think mine is really a ws in disguise, it is a 2012 model year and I do have the rear bedroom slide which I think was the difference between the two.
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:30 PM   #9
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so digging around the camper, this is what I find, and it makes me feel a little better, however it still tows very poorly. I did follow a thread on shocks and think that will be the next option.
Thanks again for all the replies.
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Those torsion axle setups tend to roll from side to side a little more than spring hung suspensions. You can add shocks to it, there's even a thread here where someone did that, but I'm not sure it's worth the trouble if it's not terribly bad.
The shocks are definitely worth the effort in the way the trailer reacts to swales in the roads. The trailer does not exagerate or transfer the bounce to the tow vehicle. I happen have the shop & equipment to fabricate the brackets, so the cost was only for the price of 4 shocks which was about $70/shock. Being retired, my labor is pretty cheap.
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