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12-01-2016, 01:33 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Texas Coastal Bend
Posts: 844
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Originally Posted by rockfordroo
I have a 600/6000 Equalizer for my Mini Lite. Worked fine on my 1500 and now my 2500HD.
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+1 on the Equalizer, it worked a treat on my 2017 2104S. The only thing you'll have to modify is the location of the bracket for the breakaway cable mount. Otherwise it made towing a breeze. You're gonna love this trailer!
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12-01-2016, 11:19 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6
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Picking up a 2017 2104s w/ Murphy!
We're picking up our new 2017 2104s this weekend. good to know about the rubber feet on these and the flooring...
Any suggestions on things to pay attention to during our PDI?
We'll be towing with a 2012 Ford F150, hoping that is plenty for this camper.
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12-01-2016, 12:25 PM
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Canadian Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Eastern GTA, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 6,235
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amanda K
We're picking up our new 2017 2104s this weekend. good to know about the rubber feet on these and the flooring...
Any suggestions on things to pay attention to during our PDI?
We'll be towing with a 2012 Ford F150, hoping that is plenty for this camper.
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There is a checklist in the site Library that will be very helpful. Don't rush the PDI. It should take well over 2 hours. Make sure they have water in the FW tank and demonstrate EVERYTHING. Some folks video the PDI because, if your fairly new, there is alot to take in.
Also make sure you get manuals for all the appliances and mechanical parts like the axles. FR is very good at supplying manuals and often you'll get a list of the systems with model numbers and serial numbers. You'll find that many things in the trailer will have a manufacturer's warranty that goes beyond the factory warranty.
And finally, ask about the 2nd year Forest River warranty. If they don't offer the form you can download it from the site Library, too.
Good luck and have fun. Post some pics when you get it home.
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2016 Ford F-250 XLT SuperCrew, 6.2L, 4x4, 6'9" bed
2019 Rockwood Signature 8290BS (2019 - 2022)
2011 Rockwood Signature 8293SS (2015 - 2018)
2010 Rockwood Roo 23SS (2012 - 2014)
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12-01-2016, 12:29 PM
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Canadian Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Eastern GTA, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 6,235
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I forgot to add... if anything significant is wrong with it, do not sign the papers. Make them fix it before you sign. You'll have no leverage after you've signed for it.
If there are only minor things that you're comfortable with fixing "whenever" you can go ahead and accept the trailer.
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2023 Rockwood Signature 8262RBS
2016 Ford F-250 XLT SuperCrew, 6.2L, 4x4, 6'9" bed
2019 Rockwood Signature 8290BS (2019 - 2022)
2011 Rockwood Signature 8293SS (2015 - 2018)
2010 Rockwood Roo 23SS (2012 - 2014)
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12-01-2016, 05:58 PM
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#25
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 10,907
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amanda K
We're picking up our new 2017 2104s this weekend. good to know about the rubber feet on these and the flooring...
Any suggestions on things to pay attention to during our PDI?
We'll be towing with a 2012 Ford F150, hoping that is plenty for this camper.
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Make sure you put the Murphy Bed down and back up. It's the one thing we didn't do during the PDI (what could possibly be wrong with it, right?). Got 10 miles down the road (luckily) and stopped to meet my brother-in-law for lunch.
Went to put the Murphy Bed down to show him how it worked and discovered that they had neglected to screw the entire street side of the vertical board (that the piano hinge for the bed is attached to) to the frame of the cabinets. Took it the 10 miles back to the dealer and they put a few screws into it to match the curb side (3 on each side). When I got home, I put a few more in on each side, as 3 didn't really look like enough to me.
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1988 Coleman Sequoia - popup (1987-2009) - outlasted 3 Dodge Grand Caravans!
2012 Roo19 - hybrid (2012-2015)
2016 Mini Lite 2503S - tt (2015 - ???)
2011 Traverse LT, 3.6L, FWD
2009 Silverado 1500 Ext Cab, 5.3L, 4x4, 3.73
2016 Silverado 2500HD Dbl Cab, 6.0L 4x4, 4.10
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12-03-2016, 03:16 AM
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#26
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Texas Coastal Bend
Posts: 844
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rockfordroo
Joe:
A number of folks have reported that the ~1 in round rubber foot on the bottom of the Murphy Bed leg has put a hole in their floor. They (and now I) removed the rubber foot and replaced it with something larger to spread out the weight.
In my case, I simply cut some stick-on felt strips to the same shape as the bottom of the foot, thus the entire area of the foot now supports the bed.
Some folks added a larger diameter rubber foot.
Do whichever you think is best.
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I removed the rubber feet and bought this:
Everbilt 4-1/2 in. x 6 in. Heavy Duty Self-Adhesive Felt Blankets (2 per Pack)-49950 - The Home Depot
Trace the profile of the T-shaped post on the felt back and cut it out with heavy scissors. I brushed a little contact cement on the wooden ends to improve adhesion, then let it tack up and stuck the felt on (after peeling away the paper backing of course). Put the bed down to give it pressure while it dries and you're all set. It worked for me!
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12-03-2016, 11:55 PM
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#27
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 44
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We have a 2015 model and love it. The Murphy bed is the deal maker, as well as the quality in the trim. Many comment on the trim and how much room there is. This was our second trailer in 2 years. #1 was a nightmare and I learned enough about trailers to buy the Rockwood!
Smooth roads and high MPG to you!
Joe R.
Kelso, WA
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12-04-2016, 12:11 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 44
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I have a 2013 Ford F150 XLT 4 door with the 5.0 liter V8 and automatic transmission. Zero worries with this engine combo. Average on recent 3 week trip along the Oregon Coast, "The State of Jefferson" and Crater Lake was 11.4 mpg
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12-04-2016, 07:49 AM
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#29
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 16
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The 2015-2104 is also my second trailer. The Rockwood is vastly superior to the first. My gas mileage is also between 10-12 mpg depending on weather/terrain. This trailer has been been to both coasts and up/down the eastern seaboard numerous times. I have had some minor problems but nothing that I could not fix myself.
The main thing that I don't like is the total amount of storage available inside the unit itself. Talking with other rv'ers, this is a common problem that is just not specific to the 2504.
Over all, the positives out number the negatives by a wide margin and in the rv world, that is a winner.
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2015 Rockwood 2104S
2015 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7L
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12-04-2016, 10:19 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6
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Thanks!
We picked it up yesterday and got to drive through pouring rain and I35 construction in Temple on our maiden voyage, now pulling it wont seem so daunting.
Everything checked out great, they did a nice job of getting it ready for us. Now to start kitting it out...
Does anyone know - is the murphy mattress a standard queen or 'camper queen'
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12-06-2016, 07:42 AM
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#31
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 227
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amanda K
Thanks!
We picked it up yesterday and got to drive through pouring rain and I35 construction in Temple on our maiden voyage, now pulling it wont seem so daunting.
Everything checked out great, they did a nice job of getting it ready for us. Now to start kitting it out...
Does anyone know - is the murphy mattress a standard queen or 'camper queen'
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It's a camper queen.
2015 Rockwood 2306
2015 Tundra CrewMax
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12-06-2016, 07:45 AM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 68
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Camper queen. 80 inches long I believe instead of 85. Width is the same.
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12-06-2016, 12:35 PM
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Canadian Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Eastern GTA, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 6,235
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rcguy
Camper queen. 80 inches long I believe instead of 85. Width is the same.
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A camper queen bed is 74" long instead of the standard queen that's 80" long. Both are 60" wide.
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2023 Rockwood Signature 8262RBS
2016 Ford F-250 XLT SuperCrew, 6.2L, 4x4, 6'9" bed
2019 Rockwood Signature 8290BS (2019 - 2022)
2011 Rockwood Signature 8293SS (2015 - 2018)
2010 Rockwood Roo 23SS (2012 - 2014)
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12-06-2016, 04:29 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Texas Coastal Bend
Posts: 844
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rcguy
Camper queen. 80 inches long I believe instead of 85. Width is the same.
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Yep, but a standard queen size foam mattress topper fits nicely and is a good improvement towards comfort. I put a 1-1/2 inch thick egg-crate style pad on mine and it helped a lot.
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07-06-2017, 02:15 PM
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#35
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2
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2104 Feedback
Good afternoon group,
We are currently shopping for a mobile office/camper for when we travel.
Marriott is nice, but we are burned out on hotels. We looked at a 2017 2104S today and were really impressed. Have you all had good experiences with your units? They hold up well and no big issues?
We will be pulling with a Ford Diesel, but like this smaller size for the places we go. Would love any feedback you can provide. Also this is our first camper purchase. Tips on negotiating price? Is it like buying a truck and they drop the price many thousands ?
Thank you all!
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07-07-2017, 12:41 AM
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#36
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Texas Coastal Bend
Posts: 844
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We loooove our 2104S! It's also a 2017, the improvements over earlier models include a shower door instead of a leaky curtain, "almost" pass-through storage up front (the Murphy bed still interferes somewhat), and a few other changes.
Definitely get the Murphy bed option, that and the deep slide sealed the deal for me. The large-for-the-class refrigerator and usable kitchen space are also pretty sweet.
Improvements? Search my profile if you want to see what I've done so far, and I'm just getting warmed up! If your's comes with an analog thermostat like mine did, you'll certainly want to swap that out for a digital unit. The old school slide adjuster did a lousy job of maintaining even temperature. I also wish there was a power panel closer to the dinette as the DW wants to use that as her sewing station, but it's workable. Some folks complain about a lack of storage, I suppose that might be the case if it was a live-aboard, but there's plenty for our purposes.
Sounds like your truck will pull it with ease, check it out and see what you think!
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07-07-2017, 11:10 AM
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#37
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 6
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We love ours, have taken it out 5-6 times now including a 2 week stint in Big Bend. We got the 2017 model last December. The dinette slid and Murphy bed made this the model of choice for us - small trailer with a ton of open floor space when the bed is up and table slide is out. We usually have 2 people and 2 dogs (one a 100lb lab) and we fit fine.
I'm interested to try some of the mods others have suggested, our AC seems to have a hard time regulating when it gets really hot.
BTW - I'm totally intrigued by the 'MidsouthAerials' name. Where from? Apparatus of choice? Traveling group? Corde Lisse is my secret addiction.
Ha - went and reread my earlier posts on this thread. We've obv upgraded the tow vehicle already. Oh newbs, we got two local trips in before we knew we needed something bigger. We upgrade from a F150 V6 to a Chevy Silverado Z71 4x4.
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07-07-2017, 12:04 PM
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#38
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Texas Coastal Bend
Posts: 844
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amanda K
We love ours, have taken it out 5-6 times now including a 2 week stint in Big Bend. We got the 2017 model last December. The dinette slid and Murphy bed made this the model of choice for us - small trailer with a ton of open floor space when the bed is up and table slide is out. We usually have 2 people and 2 dogs (one a 100lb lab) and we fit fine.
I'm interested to try some of the mods others have suggested, our AC seems to have a hard time regulating when it gets really hot.
BTW - I'm totally intrigued by the 'MidsouthAerials' name. Where from? Apparatus of choice? Traveling group? Corde Lisse is my secret addiction.
Ha - went and reread my earlier posts on this thread. We've obv upgraded the tow vehicle already. Oh newbs, we got two local trips in before we knew we needed something bigger. We upgrade from a F150 V6 to a Chevy Silverado Z71 4x4.
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Yeah, our Frontier would definitely not be the TV of choice for a long trip through the Rockies, but it does surprisingly well for the lightly-loaded nearby weekend jaunts we currently take.
We are planning a major national tour shortly after we retire in a few years, a truck upgrade is a no-brainer before that happens.
If you have an analog thermostat, replacing that with a digital unit should fix your A/C issue.
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07-10-2017, 01:00 PM
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#39
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2
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Midsouth Aerials
Thank you both for your replies, this gives us confidence in the camper!
We have a baby coming in August, and will be making purchasing decisions around October/November.
Name wise, we are a technology company. We attach cameras to aircraft for aerial photography, but also use drones for images, video, point cloud scientific data, agricultural research etc. And recently we added Virtual Reality and 3D modeling to our lineup.
I have a decent bit of travel scheduled in 2018 and I am debating a camper to get me out of Marriott. Carrying all the gear upstairs each night gets old.
With a Honda 3000 genset in the bed of my truck, I should be a rolling office/hotel :-)
Maybe we will cross paths one day on the road. We are based out of Memphis Tennessee.
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07-10-2017, 08:28 PM
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#40
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: MD
Posts: 259
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Hello all 2104S owners!
New to FR forums, 1st post.
DW & I are picking up our new 2018 this Friday and are excited. Trading in a hybrid. We really like the floor plan of the 2104S, ducted air, power awning, and usable shower. Plenty of space to move around in living area with Murphy Bed up. We are going to pull it with an '03 Sequoia 4.7 V8 rated at 6,200lbs. Curious how it will do. DW is looking for ideas for kitchen/dinette storage solutions. Please feel free to share your ideas.
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