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Old 08-26-2015, 01:02 PM   #41
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Old 08-26-2015, 06:33 PM   #42
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B&B were do you get free nitrogen. The places I have had tires done want to charge me.
Bast Tire. They put the tires on, lifetime fill ups. My Ford dealer is free. If you buy a car wash at a local high end place they have island with free refills. The tires shop runs all there tools on nitrogen as well, saves water and rust in the motors.
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Nitrogen works, there's no denying that. Aerospace, racing, general aviation all have proven it's benefits.

The question is, how necessary is it at the grassroots level? Rule of thumb is that regular air increases in pressure 1PSI for every 10* increase in temperature. A tire typically heats up about 50* over ambient, so we're looking at a 5PSI increase in pressure. I guarantee that you line up 10 gauges you'll see a 5PSI variation between them, and in reality 5PSI is negligible. Nitrogen does change, physics still applies, but it's on the order of .1PSI for every 10* increase.

Nitrogen doesn't leak like regular air does. I've proven it myself. My motorcycle still has 41PSI in the tires two years later, my truck was a rock solid 65-80 for two years before I replaced the tires. So there is that.

Some say it rides better. Personally, I think it does.

Lastly, it's bone dry. For those running balancing beads it's almost necessary. I like that the wheel isn't exposed to moisture. Moisture reportedly can harm the inner lining of the tire though I can't say I've ever seen that one.

The benefits are provable. The question is, do we need it in our everyday cars, trucks and trailers. Do we need aviation technology in our personal lives?

Many asked the same question about disc brakes. Sunday I tested my disc brakes very hard towing my camper on the way from Bristol, I promise, disc brakes and ABS helped keep me out of the ditch.

It's up to the individual. Personally, I have no problem with pure nitrogen. I don't mind paying the first time as I know the process to purge out air and get to a 95% N2 state is time consuming. I'm looking for a small tank to top up with at home, I just haven't spent the money.

Much like the running premium fuel in your 87 octane rated car. Does it help? No, certainly not enough to offset the cost. The extra detergents will help clean things, but that's about it.

So it's up to the individual to make up their own mind. It it worth it? I think yes, provided you don't pay through the nose for it. Will it perform miracles and net you 10MPG, no.
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Please qualify your statement "Rule of thumb is that regular air increases in pressure 1PSI for every 10* increase in temperature. A tire typically heats up about 50* over ambient, so we're looking at a 5PSI increase in pressure. I guarantee that you line up 10 gauges you'll see a 5PSI variation between them, and in reality 5PSI is negligible. Nitrogen does change, physics still applies, but it's on the order of .1PSI for every 10* increase." If air is 80% nitrogen how is it possible that it changes 10 times more than nitrogen.
And please link me to any scientific data that shows tires last longer with pure nitrogen. I don't mean theoretical, real data.

B&B I guess I need to look around more because I have not found these places unless you have purchased from them.
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Sooooo.....if an advantage is that it doesn't leak out then why all the discussion on free fill-ups????
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Please qualify your statement "Rule of thumb is that regular air increases in pressure 1PSI for every 10* increase in temperature. A tire typically heats up about 50* over ambient, so we're looking at a 5PSI increase in pressure. I guarantee that you line up 10 gauges you'll see a 5PSI variation between them, and in reality 5PSI is negligible. Nitrogen does change, physics still applies, but it's on the order of .1PSI for every 10* increase." If air is 80% nitrogen how is it possible that it changes 10 times more than nitrogen.
And please link me to any scientific data that shows tires last longer with pure nitrogen. I don't mean theoretical, real data.

B&B I guess I need to look around more because I have not found these places unless you have purchased from them.
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My tires have never been higher than 20 degrees over ambient and 7 lbs over the pressure when leaving camp. 50 seems awfully high to me. I run 78% nitrogen.


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