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Old 10-16-2016, 08:31 PM   #11
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Well my wife and I just got back from our latest outing since I made the leveling adjustments and everything went very well. My biggest worry was the last leg of the trip where there is a steep up and over a set of railroad tracks and a ditch at the entrance of the property where we were camping. Fortunately though neither seemed to pose any issue and the closest it ever got to touching was about 2.5".
The other added benefit was the ride. Leveling the trailer seemed to remove a lot of the chucking and my braking felt like it was a little improved also.

Thank you everyone for your help,
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Old 10-16-2016, 09:00 PM   #12
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I finally finished adjusting my 5th wheel hitch and pin-box on my 8288SS to get it level when towing. According to my calculations, I am about 1/2" to 1" nose high but that is without gear in the bed, passengers in the cab, clothing loaded or any water in the holding tanks.

As I understand it, the desired minimum clearance between the bed rails of the truck and 5th wheel is 6". After leveling, I have an average clearance of 5.75". I am thinking that a 1/4" is nothing to worry about but I thought that I would ask what others think.

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I'm glad you wrote about this. I posted something no long ago. I recently bought a 8289WS my nose is about 1". I don't like it! But I have 6" clearance from truck to fifth wheel and they told me "DO NOT CHANGE IT"
With the nose high I don't think the fifth wheel ride smooth. But if I lower it, I'm going to have 5" clearance.
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Old 10-16-2016, 09:17 PM   #13
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I'm glad you wrote about this. I posted something no long ago. I recently bought a 8289WS my nose is about 1". I don't like it! But I have 6" clearance from truck to fifth wheel and they told me "DO NOT CHANGE IT"
With the nose high I don't think the fifth wheel ride smooth. But if I lower it, I'm going to have 5" clearance.
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Lower the truck or raise the trailer.
taller tires on the trailer or shorter ones on the truck.
You could reduce the spring pack, or cut a coil off you could install shorter axle blocks.

There are lift kits for trailers.
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Old 10-17-2016, 10:14 PM   #14
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Don't think so. Thanks for the idea. My truck and trailer are brand new.
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Old 10-17-2016, 11:07 PM   #15
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Hman, in my opinion, anything within an inch is level enough. It is very hard to get closer and not worth the frustration. My current rig is exactly 1" high in the front and compared to my last rig that was level (by luck), I don't notice any difference pulling. I would rather have at least 6" at the tailgate than be perfectly level.
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I just dropped my hitch 1 1/4 inches to to more level. I have a F 350 with Rockwood 8289WS with lift kit. I am not 1 inch high and have 7 inches of bed clearance. Leaving as is for now.
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Old 10-18-2016, 08:15 AM   #17
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I'm glad you wrote about this. I posted something no long ago. I recently bought a 8289WS my nose is about 1". I don't like it! But I have 6" clearance from truck to fifth wheel and they told me "DO NOT CHANGE IT"
With the nose high I don't think the fifth wheel ride smooth. But if I lower it, I'm going to have 5" clearance.
Any more opinions?
I am glad that the information was helpful. But to be clear, from where I started to where I am at now I have dropped 5" and as I said, I am still 1/2" to 1" nose high. The last adjustment dropped the nose 3" alone. So when I say that the ride, braking and chucking is improved. I attribute that mostly to the front wheels of the 5th wheel now carrying their share of the weight vs prior. Additionally, for me, I think being a bit nose high is beneficial in that when a hard braking situation occurs and the 5th wheel nose dives, pushing the rear of the truck downward. Having that inch of travel downward before the trailer goes out of level, IMO improves the ability of the trailer to have all 4 wheels brake efficiently and slow the vehicle.
As most people will attest, all vehicles are unique when towing, that being said, even though I feel that lowering the nose improved the ride and braking, I am still contemplating ways to improve it. My latest research is leading me to consider an air-ride kingpin pin-box such as this in the Spring of next year.
http://www.etrailer.com/Fifth-Wheel-...ur1hoCIc7w_wcB
My point of this is that, even though dropping the nose helped with my ride comfort and braking, the improvement wasn't high on the WOW factor scale and is the reason I am still contemplating spending $1k on a air-ride kingpin pin-box.

I hope this clarifies my previous statement and I wish you the best in your adventures.

Thanks for looking,
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Old 10-18-2016, 10:02 PM   #18
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I think you replied to my original posted a month or so ago Scott. And you are correct! It just bothers me when I see the front higher. I think it's also my truck. I have a 2015 Ram 2500. It's high in the back. More than other trcuks.
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I've always had B&W and that is what it was. The back story is I stood the ball up and hooked up to an equipment trailer. My brother was driving our John Deere up on the trailer and it rared up with the ball still in the hitch. I didn't pin it under the bed. It came up about 4' then he hit the brakes and the trailer slammed the ball through the bed. It only stopped when the trailer side hitch bottomed out and the trailer leveled off on the dual tandem axles. Good thing it missed the fuel tank. It was just a few inches in front of the hitch hole. So much more could have been damaged.

It's funny now but Always check that lever. You just never know.
A very good friend hitched up his 5er, then got called away for something. He forgot to check the hitch, the king wasn't in all the way, the lever was not secured and the locking pin was not in....
The family got in the truck and the first braking right turn the 5er comes out of the hitch and lands on the truck bed and tailgate! Tailgate and bed are toast, damaged to the left front of the 5er. Fortunately, all the family is OK!
I have heard that dumb bells like to pull the locking pin and release kin pin levers when 5er's are unattended, so I always check EVERYTHING when I have been away from the rig.
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A very good friend hitched up his 5er, then got called away for something. He forgot to check the hitch, the king wasn't in all the way, the lever was not secured and the locking pin was not in....
The family got in the truck and the first braking right turn the 5er comes out of the hitch and lands on the truck bed and tailgate! Tailgate and bed are toast, damaged to the left front of the 5er. Fortunately, all the family is OK!
I have heard that dumb bells like to pull the locking pin and release kin pin levers when 5er's are unattended, so I always check EVERYTHING when I have been away from the rig.
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That's why I put a pad lock on my hitch levers.
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