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05-12-2016, 09:03 AM
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Tv connections help please
I have a tv wire loose behind my tv and tracked it down to the panel in the cupboard, where I found quite an assortment of wires and have no idea where they go and what they do.
Anyone know?
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05-12-2016, 09:10 AM
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Those are different coax sources. Roof antenna, cable and satellite. May I ask what you're trying to accomplish?
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05-12-2016, 09:14 AM
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The grey cable behind my tv goes to the one in three out block but has no feed from it, I first wondered why it was behind the tv and had no feed then wondered what all the rest done.
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05-12-2016, 09:31 AM
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The wall plate with the little circuit board is for cable and roof antenna. There should be a switch on the plate that makes a light go on/off. Light on means that you're using your roof antenna, light off means you can hook up to campground cable.
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05-12-2016, 09:35 AM
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The circuitry on the black panel is the antenna amplifier, which should only turned on when using the antenna, not the cable inlet on the side of the camper, or a satellite input.
That is input often wired to the output of the 3-in-1-out metallic box combiner, which combines signals from the various inputs as mentioned by ov845, and the output is connected to the TV (though the amplifier probably should really be wired in before the combiner, it often isn't)
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05-12-2016, 09:50 AM
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Tv wire
So the wire from the "three out" which has no tv feed will come into play when a feed is connected outside?
Another question please I see you have a 2500 and the other guy a 1500 I brought this 5th wheel with a f150 but thought it was under powered, it's a rockwood ultra lite 8280 ws I could then only get a Dually, will a 1500 tow this or do I need at least a 2500? I live in the UK so hard to get answers from experienced owners.
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05-12-2016, 10:04 AM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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I think you may be confused in your thinking.
You keep referring to the block with the three out and has no feed.
That block is a splitter.
It does have a 'feed' (called an input here in the US) and the photo clearly shows a coax attached to it. (the side with the single port)
The splitter takes that input and sends it to three different places via the 'outputs' on the other side of the block.
Whatever signal goes in the single port, comes back out the other three.
I don't have a clue what wire was loose behind your TV that made you pull the wall plates but keep in mind, these trailers ARE NOT wired with any kind of uniformity as to colors, connections or routing. It seems every one is different dependent upon what the factory decided to do that day. (or even on that unit)
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05-12-2016, 10:20 AM
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Tv
Thanks for the info it just gets to me when I don't know what these things are for, I assumed as it was coming from the amp and by the back of the tv it would have a signal, I will tie it back and try to forget it. But won't !
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05-12-2016, 10:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kerandire
So the wire from the "three out" which has no tv feed will come into play when a feed is connected outside?
Another question please I see you have a 2500 and the other guy a 1500 I brought this 5th wheel with a f150 but thought it was under powered, it's a rockwood ultra lite 8280 ws I could then only get a Dually, will a 1500 tow this or do I need at least a 2500? I live in the UK so hard to get answers from experienced owners.
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In my op, any 5th wheel should be towed by a minimum 3/4 ton (250, 2500). When you factor the pin weight and gear very few 1/2 tons (150, 1500) have the capacity to tow comfortably. Much rather have more vehicle than less when it comes to towing.
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05-12-2016, 11:01 AM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kerandire
Thanks for the info it just gets to me when I don't know what these things are for, I assumed as it was coming from the amp and by the back of the tv it would have a signal, I will tie it back and try to forget it. But won't !
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I'm not suggesting you forget about it but without detailed photos or a hand drawing of your wiring showing where every wire connects and goes, we are all just guessing.
Typically there is only one coax goes to the back of the TV.
It usually comes from the wall plate/amplifier.
That wall plate/amplifier also has a splitter built into it.
The roof antenna coax goes into it, as does the coax coming from the outside 'cable TV' port. A wire then goes from the wall plate/amplifier to your TV.
When the amplifier is on (button pushed/green light) it supplies a roof antenna signal to your TV. When the amplifier is off, it supplies a cable signal to your TV. (provided you've hooked something to the outside port)
SOMETIMES... there is another coax coming off the wall plate/amplifier that feeds the same signals I described above to other parts of your camper. (typically bedroom but not always)
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05-12-2016, 01:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by leefl
The circuitry on the black panel is the antenna amplifier, which should only turned on when using the antenna, not the cable inlet on the side of the camper, or a satellite input.
That is input often wired to the output of the 3-in-1-out metallic box combiner, which combines signals from the various inputs as mentioned by ov845, and the output is connected to the TV (though the amplifier probably should really be wired in before the combiner, it often isn't)
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Kerandire explained that the metal block is a 1 in, 3 out configuration. This is a signal splitter from the antenna going to 3 different TV terminals. Quite likely, the living area TV, the bedroom and an outdoor if used.
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05-12-2016, 03:02 PM
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I have a 2015 Puma 23FB. I've figured out how to use both the antenna and the cable connections. I have one 75 ohm cable from the wall plate to the back of my Samsung TV.
I have the standard radio/DVD player. I've inserted several DVD'S and only get sound, no picture. Have I missed something or is there a connection I'm missing?
I've tried everything as far as sources on the TV inputs. How can I get the DVD's to play?
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05-12-2016, 03:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johng4706
I have a 2015 Puma 23FB. I've figured out how to use both the antenna and the cable connections. I have one 75 ohm cable from the wall plate to the back of my Samsung TV.
I have the standard radio/DVD player. I've inserted several DVD'S and only get sound, no picture. Have I missed something or is there a connection I'm missing?
I've tried everything as far as sources on the TV inputs. How can I get the DVD's to play?
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A couple of questions. Do you have a picture on the Samsung from any other source? And, what is you connection at the radio/dvd?
The reason I ask about the picture from any other source is because Samsung has had serious problems with sound/no picture. It has to do with faulty capacitors. A picture from any other source would also isolate it to the DVD. Do you by chance have RCA ports being used out of the DVD. If so, yellow is the video feed. If it is a coax connection and you have sound the cable should be good. If the coax connection was bad, you would get nothing.
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05-12-2016, 03:39 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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johng4706,
It is probably best to start a new thread for your question.
We can likely help but it may take several replies and additional questions as to your particular setup but this will confuse those who might search (in the future) and come here looking for answers to the original query.
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05-12-2016, 07:06 PM
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I have a wall plate amp and an amplified antenna. No matter what combination of buttons I push, I get a lousy cable picture no matter where I camp!
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05-13-2016, 07:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by I Simpson
I have a wall plate amp and an amplified antenna. No matter what combination of buttons I push, I get a lousy cable picture no matter where I camp!
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The wall plate amp is for the roof antenna make sure that light is off when using campground cable.
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05-14-2016, 09:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PenJoe
Kerandire explained that the metal block is a 1 in, 3 out configuration. This is a signal splitter from the antenna going to 3 different TV terminals. Quite likely, the living area TV, the bedroom and an outdoor if used.
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Yes, you're likely right. IIRC Mine has a combiner also to take the various inputs and feed them to the TV, after the antenna amplifier, but I could be remembering incorrectly
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05-14-2016, 10:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kerandire
Another question please I see you have a 2500 and the other guy a 1500 I brought this 5th wheel with a f150 but thought it was under powered, it's a rockwood ultra lite 8280 ws I could then only get a Dually, will a 1500 tow this or do I need at least a 2500? I live in the UK so hard to get answers from experienced owners.
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I agree with the other poster that an f150 or a 1500 (both "half ton" trucks) are likely to light weight. Perhaps not in the power department but in the payload capacity. (Towing capacity for how much weight to pull along will be fine, but it's the weight on the axles that's the problem)
I briefly (1 week) had an f150 before getting our fifth wheel, and then realized that we would be over the capacity of the truck.
You need to account for the passengers, the pin weight (for fifth wheel) or hitch weight (for TT) and any extra stuff you'll carry with you.
You also can't go on brochure payload capacities, but need the number inside the drivers door frame (at least that's where they are here in US ... I'm a Brit living in US tho), since I found that brochure listed payload capacities are unrealistic for any truck you can actually buy, or would want (they list for the most basic configuration)
If your camper is the fifth wheel version of that camper then I'll imagine you'll get some looks driving along motorways, not many of them in UK. I'm also interested whether you can get right-hand drive bigger trucks (again a rarity in uk)
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05-21-2016, 06:05 AM
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UK van and car my US van and truck
Might be of interest, quite a difference ! european vans very smart inside compared to the US but too small and without all the goodies. hence my 5th wheel
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