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Old 09-20-2016, 07:50 PM   #21
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We gave up my 4 Runner because it was not going to have the tow capacity for our camper. If you like SUV's, maybe a Ford Expedition or a Suburban might give you the SUV you want and the tow capacity.
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Old 09-20-2016, 07:52 PM   #22
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Maybe I'm an oddball, but TV still means television to me.
That's why on most RV forums, TV is Tow Vehicle and tv is television, to help prevent confusion.
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Maybe I'm an oddball, but TV still means television to me.

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Old 09-21-2016, 07:27 AM   #24
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You are going to get all kinds of conflicting advice on this question. Tow vehicles is one of the great debates of this forum. There will be people telling you that you shouldn't have anything less than a 1 ton diesel dually!

That being said, payload on SUV's is typically lower than a pickup, and payload is typically where TV's exceed their limits first. So as well as looking at the towing capacity of whatever you're interested in, look at the payload number on the sticker on the drivers door frame.

Make sure you know the towing capacity of the exact vehicle you're looking at. My 2009 Silverado owners manual listed 99 permutations of the Silverado (engine size, box size, cab size, rear end gearing, tow package, etc) with towing capacities ranging from 4,000 lbs to 12,000 lbs. Mine was 7,500 lbs. So all 1/2 ton pickups are NOT created equal. So someone may tell you to "get a 1/2 ton," but if you do, you need to get the RIGHT 1/2 ton.

Ignore dry weights. Your 2109 has a GVWR of about 5256 lbs per the FR site. Tongue weight should be around 10-15% of TT weight, so your tongue weight could be as much as 788 lbs. Add 50 lbs or so for your weight distributing hitch (you'll need one) and you could have a tongue weight of 838 lbs.

So now your payload will be reduced by 838 lbs. Whatever is left is what you can load into your TV, including the wife, dog, and "stuff."

Also, you may find you'll want a larger TT in a couple years (some people even sooner!). For boaters, this is called "two-foot-itis."

So my advice is to steer away from SUV's. You'll get a lot more advice.
I agree with Rockfordroo. We own a 2015 F150 Ecoboost (3.5L) which has a towing capacity of 11,900 lbs and a carrying capacity of 2150 lbs. We tow a 5th wheel with a wet weight of 9200 lbs. Never had any problems towing even in mountain ranges and the gas mileage, when not towing, is in the middle to upper 20s. It is about 11 to 12 when towing this rig. The crew cab is almost like a limo for interior space, comfort and sound. The anti-sway feature on the truck is great. As Rockfordroo said, not all 1/2 tons are created equal. Look around, test drive, see what you want and feel comfortable with, add some wiggle room in case of two footitis and have fun with your 2109.
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Old 09-21-2016, 12:14 PM   #25
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Hi all, wow thanks for all the thoughtful responses. It means a lot to have your options and guidance. From what I'm reading here regarding pulling the 2109 and a few other limitations I'm thinking a F150 is the best fit. Regarding components I'll clearly need the trailer towing package with otional mirrors. From what I see hear and doing some math I should be well within the stated capacities of the truck. I like the ecoboost concept but was wondering if the 2.7 is adequate for my needs.
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Question for 2109S Owners

DH & I are considering upgrading to a 2109S. Can 2109S owners tell me what feature would they change on it if they could?
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Old 09-21-2016, 08:10 PM   #27
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DH & I are considering upgrading to a 2109S. Can 2109S owners tell me what feature would they change on it if they could?
The length. I would add 4 ft.

Just kidding. As discussed on several other threads, if I were buying our 2109S now, I would definitely leave off the raised-panel refrigerator door insert. It was a hazard to my wife's toes! That's why we ordered our Ultra Lite without it.
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I just went through this debate myself. I took a tip from a friend who said its better to be "over trucked" than "over trailered." I had a F150 with the 5.4 engine but even with the RW 2604ws I still would need to be mindful of weights etc. There's a huge difference between what a smaller TV can tow and what it can control. It's more than the engine power and torque...it's also brakes, tranny, rear end, axle, bearings etc.

Plus when I upgrade I would need bigger TV...so I took advantage of Fords employee pricing and got a 2016 F250 (with upgraded springs front and rear) c/w a diesel.

With the relative light weight of the 2604ws I tow with ease, the truck doesn't even break a sweat. When the time comes to upgrade the RV I've got the tow vehicle.

My 2 cents worth anyways.

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Old 09-22-2016, 06:40 AM   #29
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Towing is hard on a vehicle. Always buy a TT that is over rated for your camper so you are not over working it. Do your homework. So, I think you need a Kenworth!
Seriously, watch your GVWR. Don't forget to add hitch weight, fuel, wife, kids, ice chest, fire wood, etc.
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DH & I are considering upgrading to a 2109S. Can 2109S owners tell me what feature would they change on it if they could?

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