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Old 08-03-2014, 02:07 PM   #11
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As long as we keep buying em....they will keep on making em.

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Old 08-04-2014, 09:48 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by ChooChooMan74 View Post
The workmanship on the interior is all Forest River, and the bad workmanship there is inexcusable.
On this subject I have to say my 2604WS has nary a workmanship issue. Fit and finish are better than I anticipated. Interior, exterior all assemblies fit and appear to be sturdy and well made. All my probs have been with Lippert-supplied electic motors, oh, and a stinky Dometic toilet.
Apparently the workers who assembled my unit have some skill and pride in their jobs. I salute them.

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Old 08-04-2014, 02:00 PM   #13
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maybe so, but the cheap shoddy workmanship i have seen in my wind jammer has no excuse. lazy, incompetent? who knows, but fact remains workmasni8p sucked, and there is not one single excuse for it

the workmanship you got was exactly what you paid for. I'm amazed at the never ending tide of people who buy a $20k FR camper and then get upset because its not built like an $80K Airstream.

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Old 08-04-2014, 02:23 PM   #14
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OK, I've been putting this off, but I'm going to ask:

What were you storing in those drawers where the bottoms fell out? Ever checked how drawers are built in a mobile home? ...particle board stapled together. And mobile homes are crafted for *full time* living.

You can NOT put heavy items in those drawers.

I just went out to check our 5er....the drawer bottoms are solid wood (nope, not layers glued together).

IIRC our V-Lite's drawers were the same.

Now, regarding tires:

We just put all new tires on our 5er...with less than 500 miles on the original ones....which are sitting in the back yard. If someone wants 'em for a utility trailer I'll sell 'em cheap.

Bottom line: be PRO active instead of RE active.

If I sat here and bashed FR/Flagstaff and my dealer for every issue I encounter with our RV, could I *really* expect them to jump through themselves to help me?

If age is a state of mind, and I've lost my mind, I'm AGELESS, right?
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Old 08-04-2014, 04:15 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Platokidd View Post
As long as we keep buying em....they will keep on making em.
Then there is only 1 way to stop'em from make'n them!
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Old 08-04-2014, 07:15 PM   #16
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We just purchased a 2015 TT. Not happy with the tires so called FR to see about reimbursement on load range D replacement tires. ONLY if you ask, they gave us $75.00 per tire reimbursement. Selling the new load range c that came with trailer so broke even on exchange!
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Old 08-04-2014, 08:10 PM   #17
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After 3 years and probably 5K miles or so, I replaced my tires with Load Range E. Yeah, I'm not overly impressed with some components of the TT but that didn't stop me from buying it. If I could build one myself, I would. But I can't. And I realize I will have to customize it to my specs. Maybe if I had hand picked the features and placed an order, I may have been able to demand certain quality products. All I can say is be sure you know as much about the camper as you can before buying and hope things work out for the best. If you have any reservations about the quality, don't buy. I understand that this is a box on rubber tires with many different features, built by many different manufacturers, assembled by imperfect people. Mistakes will be made and missed in quality inspections. Most dealers will(or should) be willing to correct any imperfections. If not, there is contact information available to Forest River(who want to know if dealers are not doing their part in satisfying customers).

It's easy to get frustrated but stay calm and work out the problems because Forest River is a good company. And there are good fellow campers on FRF that can give good advice on getting through the rough spots.
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Old 08-04-2014, 08:39 PM   #18
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I feel your frustration. We bought our Sabre less than a month ago and it is already in the shop getting repairs. That said, our crossroads zinger was also in the shop getting repairs within the first month. I have seen a redwood (crossroads/thor) with major issues and those are high dollar 5ers. I have seen trilogy owners post with issues. I have friends with a Montana that had issues. Doesn't make it right or acceptable by any means, I just post this to show you it really is industry wide. Typically the best thing is to catch and fix the worst issues under warranty and then have a good dealership to work with you. If you have issues where the work isn't getting forecast the dealership (even if the dealership blames the manufacturer) contact customer service at the manufacturer directly. This usually resolves many issues much quicker. I wish you well and hope you have many trouble free years after getting these problems resolved.
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Old 08-05-2014, 05:15 AM   #19
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When we bought out 5 er we spent time going to campgrounds and asking people about their trailers and tow vehicles....that had them at least 3-5 yrs and used them to snowbird in....a trailer like a boat that is not used is nothing but problems...I see the many trailers in the storage yard sitting on tires that are all but flat, and no compressor in sight when being picked for vacation on a high speed rush trip...and expected to have all systems working perfect.....we bought new because we did not want other peoples problems....and Forest River Flagstaff has been wonderful and prompt in taking care of any problem that was due to mfg....we have had our unit 2.5 years and feel that FR has done a great job on backing their work....not sure why we have not had tire problems, but see almost everyone pass us three times on a 4 hour interstate trip with stops at almost every rest area....maybe if we drove so everyone passed us, instead of us passing everyone there would not be so many tire posts...good luck to all who tow.....your house is with you so what is the hurry????

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Old 08-05-2014, 12:41 PM   #20
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I can honestly say that we have been pretty happy with our Windjammer so far since getting it in April. We have been in it pretty much every weekend since and took it on a trip through Virginia with the temps in the low 90's. I do a quick visual or a walk around after every stop in case some is awry. My tires are Nitrogen filled, and so far they have been holding pressure just fine and seem to be wearing evenly. As far as fit and finish there is a few nickel and dime stuff with trim but nothing major except for the cabinet next to the shower.The staples in the Luan panel between the cabinet and the shower backed out a bit and the panel is loose. It really is not noticeable except for the couple times I have had the trailer in my driveway since is slope down hill, the torque on the frame causes the panel to buckle out a bit so you do notice it. In the end, I cannot really complain so far about anything.


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