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Old 07-19-2014, 10:35 AM   #11
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IMO you are taking a big risk towing a (3) slide 5er w/dual A/C with a 1/2 ton Tundra... The good thing is that you now know your actual weights & can make an informed decision as to what to do next.

BTW, we looked at the Rockwood lightweight 5ers but the bunkhouse floor plan was too much for my 2500 (loaded). With our family of 5 & gear it would have pushed us right to the limit & I don't want to tow like that...
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Old 07-19-2014, 10:52 AM   #12
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After reading this I need to get my 8289 to the cat scales. I know I was pushing the GRAW limit, I need to know for sure for my own info. I have around 3k miles of towing the 8289 since January, tows real good but I need to know the actual weight. I too have the 50A, 2nd A/C and a few other extras. I did read on a Tundra website that the axel is made by Hino and that Hino rates the rear axel at 5100#. Don't know why Toyota would rate it lower. "Must be true if it was on the internet"
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Old 07-19-2014, 11:03 AM   #13
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I understand that front a/c adds less than 40-50 lbs to pin weight.
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Old 07-19-2014, 11:53 AM   #14
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From my understanding, the 1324 pin weight was without the 2nd A/C or any other upgrade features...
When I ordered the unit, the advertised pin weight was 1184lbs; then they changed the 2014 to 1324lbs without any floor plan change, or explanation from FR for that matter.
I called FR after the weight change and they had no answer other than they "might" have moved the axles forward.
How they are unsure of this is concerning to me.
I suspect, and the evidence confirms IMO, there is fudging of the numbers for sure.
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Old 07-19-2014, 11:56 AM   #15
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After reading this I need to get my 8289 to the cat scales. I know I was pushing the GRAW limit, I need to know for sure for my own info. I have around 3k miles of towing the 8289 since January, tows real good but I need to know the actual weight. I too have the 50A, 2nd A/C and a few other extras. I did read on a Tundra website that the axel is made by Hino and that Hino rates the rear axel at 5100#. Don't know why Toyota would rate it lower. "Must be true if it was on the internet"
I just got back from a 3000k trip, and it pulled awesome. I had to weigh it when the opportunity came because of the bouncing on expansion joints. Some were violent and I had concerns. The weight explains it.
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Old 07-19-2014, 12:36 PM   #16
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Fully loaded (full water tank) my pin weight on the 8289 is 1750 lbs. Total TT weight 9300 lbs. I have 1900 lbs available according one source changing gears calculates 2200 lbs. I take the lessor of the two as being upper limit.
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Old 07-19-2014, 01:35 PM   #17
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As you weighed it to calculate actual pin weight, what was the rear axle weight of the truck with the FW hooked up?

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Fully loaded (full water tank) my pin weight on the 8289 is 1750 lbs. Total TT weight 9300 lbs. I have 1900 lbs available according one source changing gears calculates 2200 lbs. I take the lessor of the two as being upper limit.
On the 8282ws, the fresh water tank is behind the axle. Filling it, although it would take weight off the pin, it would throw the balance of the trailer way off.
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I've traveled with my fresh tank full several times and didn't notice any difference. I believe the driver side is heavier than passenger side too because 2 slides, frig, stove, fireplace, TV, shower, corian counters, microwave, etc is all on driver side. Passenger side only has loveseat slide and pantry. Mine sits 3/4" lower on driver side.
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I've traveled with my fresh tank full several times and didn't notice any difference. I believe the driver side is heavier than passenger side too because 2 slides, frig, stove, fireplace, TV, shower, corian counters, microwave, etc is all on driver side. Passenger side only has loveseat slide and pantry. Mine sits 3/4" lower on driver side.
True, and I've done that as well, but I believe that really throws off the "15-18% of the weight should be on the pin" guideline. Another contributor to the bouncing.
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