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08-18-2018, 10:11 AM
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Retired Vo-Ed Instructor
Join Date: Jan 2017
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2016 251 rks, tire blowout
Just got back from a trip out west, on the last leg a tire either blew out or it got a foreign object in it and went flat. In any case the tire came apart and tore a big hole in the floor. I took it to my dealer, and after much looking and inspecting, they told me they didn't have the technology to fix it. They stressed that it was very complicated to repair, and it might not ever get fixed and instead it would be totaled. I'm very mad at myself because I was going to buy tpms sensors and put then on, but didn't. The dealer did give me a place to take it to, that specializes in composite construction. I'm waiting to see if they can repair it.
This composite construction makes a strong yet light trailer, however Forest River should have harden the area above the wheels. I really liked this trailer, and will buy another if this one is totaled.
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08-18-2018, 10:19 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Southern NM
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What does your insurance say? We had one RV totaled by hail, and we came out better financially after the process was completed.
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08-18-2018, 10:43 AM
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Retired Vo-Ed Instructor
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 36
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2016 Surveyor tire blew
My insurance is waiting just like me to see if Central Body can repair it and what it will cost. The threshold in Nebraska is 75% of the current value. My tires looked good, were inflated properly, but in two years time I had pulled at least 30,000 miles on them.
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09-01-2018, 11:22 AM
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Retired Vo-Ed Instructor
Join Date: Jan 2017
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2016 Surveyor tire blew
Hi, Central Body in Omaha says it can fix the damage. The insurance company has approved the repair. $12000 seems a bit high, but I'm not the one who has to repair it. I just want my trailer back good as it was before the tire tore a hole in the floor.
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09-03-2018, 12:15 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Bow WA
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What is your tire size?
I ask, since I am considering replacing my OEM tires, which are Load Range C, with Load Rrange D.
Your reply will be very appreciated.
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FR251 rks (2016) / Ram2500 diesel
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09-03-2018, 09:06 AM
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Retired Vo-Ed Instructor
Join Date: Jan 2017
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2016 251 rks tire blowout
The trailer isn't at my house now, but I think they were st 205/70-14. I'm going to change all of them out as soon as I get the trailer back home.
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09-03-2018, 09:15 AM
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Georgia Rally Coordinator
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: GA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by debit
What is your tire size?
I ask, since I am considering replacing my OEM tires, which are Load Range C, with Load Rrange D.
Your reply will be very appreciated.
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FR251 rks (2016) / Ram2500 diesel
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Look at the New Good Year Endurance tire. Made here in the USA. Later RJD
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09-03-2018, 10:40 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Bow WA
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Thank you for the reply.
On my prior TT, I had 205/70-14 tires and had big problems, so I switched to 15" tires. One of the main criteria when I bought the new FR Surveyor was that it had to have 15" tires, and it does.
It has ST225/75 R-15 LR C.
However, now I think (based on info here in the forum), the OEM load range C tires need to be upgraded to at least a "D" level.
As an aside, I upgraded my boat trailer tires to the new Endurance load range "E". I could not be more pleased!
Thank you, again.
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FR Surveyor 251rks / Ram 2500 diesel
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10-18-2018, 01:47 PM
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Retired Vo-Ed Instructor
Join Date: Jan 2017
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2016 251 RKS Tire Blowout
The repair shop still has my trailer, but I should get it by the end of the month. It had way more damage than I knew about. It even tore up the couch. The tires on it were Ridgway, 225/75 15 c, they are also China bombs. The C rating for that trailer should be a minimum of a D, I would suggest changing tires as soon as possible. I didn't know about China bombs until I had the blowout. Here are pictures of the trailer. https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...k2MlRQNGwwVGd3
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10-18-2018, 03:09 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Bow WA
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THANK YOU! Very appreciated. Yes, my OEM tires are a China made Constancy, LR "C". I have been lucky - no explosions!
I have a set of load range "D"s that I took off my boat trailer that I'll switch to the TT.
I would agree that this TT has minimum rated range "C" tires. I'll switch before the next trip.
I am fortunate to be able to park the TT inside my RV garage. I have not needed to winterize it; instead, I use an oil filled heater to keep it warm.
We do like the trailer!
Again, thank you!.
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Ram 2500 diesel 4x4 long bed
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10-18-2018, 03:12 PM
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Denver To Yuma In 90 Days
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by debit
THANK YOU! Very appreciated. Yes, my OEM tires are a China made Constancy, LR "C". I have been lucky - no explosions!
I have a set of load range "D"s that I took off my boat trailer that I'll switch to the TT.
I would agree that this TT has minimum rated range "C" tires. I'll switch before the next trip.
I am fortunate to be able to park the TT inside my RV garage. I have not needed to winterize it; instead, I use an oil filled heater to keep it warm.
We do like the trailer!
Again, thank you!.
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Ram 2500 diesel 4x4 long bed
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How old are those boat tires?
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10-18-2018, 08:56 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: NC
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I honestly believe that many china bombs would be fine if the trailer was sized properly with them. I took the Constancy Ds off of my Surveyor and replaced them with Maxxis 10Ply Es. The Constancy Ds went on my lighter car hauler and I have pulled it a couple of thousand miles without a problem.
The Surveyor is at the weight max of the D range so Es are the better choice.
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10-19-2018, 12:14 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Bow WA
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"The Surveyor is at the weight max of the D range so Es are the better choice."
Correct.
Except that my Surveyor had Cs....not so good.
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Ram2500 diesel / Surveyor 251rks
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10-19-2018, 12:16 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Bow WA
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How old are those boat tires?
They are two years old - very low mileage - and parked inside.
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Ram 2500 diesel / Surveyor 251rks
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10-21-2018, 09:29 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 23
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Stupid question I guess but Why change good tires?
I’m learning a lot from this forum so excuse what may seem a dumb question but why change good tires and how would I know a C from a D rated tire anyway
New 251rks
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10-21-2018, 11:05 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Bow WA
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Angie,
The load range C may not be adequate enough for the 251 trailer, so I am not going to take any more chances. I often go on back roads and camp off the grid. As such I take extra water and "stuff". Look for "LR" followed by a letter on the side of the tire.
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Ram 2500 4x4 diesel / FR Surveyor 251rks
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10-22-2018, 10:06 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: NC
Posts: 477
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Angieburns
I’m learning a lot from this forum so excuse what may seem a dumb question but why change good tires and how would I know a C from a D rated tire anyway
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Good tires is a subjective term. The tires on most campers are just the bare minimum to get the camper over the dealer's curb. It is unfortunate that the tires are of such poor quality and the end consumer needs to spend $800 to upgrade brand new stuff, especially a safety item.
We have all been first time camper buyers, floor plan and design seems to be what is looked at and we assume the tires are of good quality because when we buy a new car the tires are for the most part a good quality tire.
All of us soon learn that campers are not the quality of a new car or stick and brick house. Things fall apart easily and other things fail. The last thing you want is a China Bomb to fail causing thousands of dollars of damage to a new camper. Sure, good quality tires can fail but if they are properly sized and designed for the load there is less of a chance.
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2017 Surveyor 33RETS with Residential Refrigerator and Inverter
2005 Ford Excursion 6.0L 2WD
Nights Camped 2016 27, 2017 29
2018 25 2019 25
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12-22-2018, 02:45 PM
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Retired Vo-Ed Instructor
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 36
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2016 251 rks, tire blowout
Hi everyone, I got the TT back on Nov 15th. Looks as good as new. Central Body in Omaha did a great job. I changed to Carlisle Tires 225/75/14 E rating, plus had them check the brakes as I was getting a lock up. 2 brakes weren't working and the others were worn out, plus I had to have new bearing put on 2 tires as well. $2500 later all is good. We are leaving the 23rd for Texas. It pulls a lot better with those Carlisle tires they have 10 ply sidewalls, lot less sway.
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12-23-2018, 08:22 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NY Capital District
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcummins56
Hi everyone, I got the TT back on Nov 15th. Looks as good as new. Central Body in Omaha did a great job. I changed to Carlisle Tires 225/75/14 E rating, plus had them check the brakes as I was getting a lock up. 2 brakes weren't working and the others were worn out, plus I had to have new bearing put on 2 tires as well. $2500 later all is good. We are leaving the 23rd for Texas. It pulls a lot better with those Carlisle tires they have 10 ply sidewalls, lot less sway.
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Good luck. I will be interested in how the new tires do. I have a 2017 251rks with original tires still on the trailer. We have only done limited traveling so far and hope to start to do more next year.
I think in the spring it will be time for me to buy new tires. I am thinking Good Year Endurance.
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2017 Forest River Surveyor 251rks
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01-01-2019, 01:18 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Bow WA
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Thank you for the update. I think the repair shop did you a huge favor by checking out the brakes and bearings.
I am sure pleased with my Goodyear Endurance tires.
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Ram2500 diesel / FR Surveyor 251rks
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