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Old 04-30-2016, 07:28 PM   #1
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2017 Surveyor 33RETS

We hooked up the 2015 Puma today and traded it for a 2017 Surveyor 33RETS, it is a much different beast.

The interior is awesome, almost like a fifth wheel and the exterior is clean and sleek. We had a few issues, most were corrected on the spot by the dealer. We had a kinked outside shower line, the DVD was unplugged, loose trim panel in the front pass thru compartment and a loose trim molding on the ceiling. The couch is the biggest problem, the arm is indented and there is a hole in the cushion. The dealer is submitting a claim for it to get us a new couch.

It is definitely heavier than the Puma. I have installed my Pro Pride on it and the DW has equipped it. It will be interesting to see how it handles now that it is loaded. I told her this needs to last her a long time.
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Old 05-01-2016, 12:25 PM   #2
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Nice looking unit! Enjoy!


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Old 05-02-2016, 09:00 AM   #3
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Congrats on your great looking Surveyor 33RETS.
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Wow, nice rig! We also pull our Roo 21SS with an Excursion. Now you've got me thinking upgrade.
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Old 07-04-2016, 07:05 AM   #6
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I wanted to give a review of the 33RETS now that we have owned it for a couple of months and taken it on several trips.


The 33RETS is really a joy to spend time in, there is plenty of room for 4 of us and 2 dogs. The 05 Excursion is equipped with a Pro-Pride hitch and handles the camper just fine, it does feel heavier than the Puma we traded in.


On the maiden voyage to Ft Wilderness we had a couple of hiccups. The dealer did not wire the batteries in parallel so they were not charging right, I fixed that problem while on the road. Speaking of the inverter, when we returned home it quit working, I contacted the inverter manufacturer and they exchanged the bad one with a new one. It was a simple replacement.


The furniture is a disappointment. So far we have had trouble with the recliners not closing easily and the arms of the couch collapsing. The dealer replaced the right arm and is working with FR on the left. They are also working with FR on the recliners.


The TV connections were poorly run and bad and the DVD player was not wired properly. On our FL trip I replaced the TV with a same sized unit from the house just so we had something to watch because at the last minute we could not get the Jensen to work. When we got back I looked at the TV. I ran new cables from the DVD to TV and sound bar, fastened the DVD player in properly and corrected the TV settings to make everything work.


The awning is a disappointment because the slide under it takes up so much room. I contacted Surveyor and they changed the awning supplier and all 33RETS units now have the awning over the slide. We use a pop up tent towards the front to watch TV etc.


Other small items: The kitchen drain leaked, it was a simple repair to reseat the elbow. The bed storage compartment struts are weak, I will find suitable replacements. The blinds behind the chairs were damaged by the recliners not closing, the dealer is working with FR on that.


Things to keep in mind about the 33RETS. The front pass though storage doors are 21" wide so some chairs and blue tanks will not fit. The electrical, TV and water hookups are on the back so the bike rack has to be lowered to plug them in. BTW, the rack is heavy. Bikes on the rack need to be carefully positioned, you don't want one popping a handle bar into the camper's fiberglass.


The water heater is in the rear of the camper, it takes a minute for the hot water to reach the shower. The black and grey tanks are large, 4 of us did not fill the black tank in 6 days. On a separate trip we did not fill the grey tanks in 3 days so I am impressed.


The residential refrigerator is great, we know boondocking will be tough but if we do we will buy a generator. The refrigerator is large and handles a weeks worth of for for my hungry teenagers.


Yes, this is a couples camper but the sofa pulls out into a bed and there is plenty of room for an air mattress in front of the recliners. The bed room has a ton of closet and drawer space so we all keep our clothes in it.


We have had a few small items but all in all the camper has been great! We are much happier with the 33RETS than we were with the Puma 30FQSS.
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Coolharts, can I ask you a quick question. We just ordered the same model and have some questions about satellite hook ups. We asked if they could drop two dedicated lines just for satellite and they would not. Have you hooked satellite up yet? Direct tv. Needs a line with no splitters and I am in panic mode about not being able to get our direct TV hooked up. Any info would ease my mind.
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That is a very nice rig, the floor plan is about like mines.
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Hi, We have the 2016 33RETS and love it. We have been wondering how in the world to attach bikes to the bike rack on the rear! if you could post pics or explain how you do it so they dontt come loose, it would be greatly appreciated. Maw Maw and Paw Paw have to bring grands bikes!!
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Hi, sorry we won't have ours till like May . Would like to ask you also, have you hooked satellite up yet to the camper. I am a worrier and stay up nights thinking of things to worry about with new camper. We physically have not seen this camper so it's really hard. The other night I found out the slide with stove and frige is about 8 inches shorter in dept then our current camper. Just gives me something else to lay awake for.
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Hi, We have the 2016 33RETS and love it. We have been wondering how in the world to attach bikes to the bike rack on the rear! if you could post pics or explain how you do it so they dontt come loose, it would be greatly appreciated. Maw Maw and Paw Paw have to bring grands bikes!!
They are tough but doable, unfortunately I do not have Pics.. First DO NOT put a bike with handlebars that stick out too far next to the camper, I have not done it but if you look at it one wrong move and the fiberglass will get a hole in it.

Raise the supports on the rack, position the back (camper side) bike with front wheel to the left side of camper, support with bungee cord. Position the next bike with front wheel towards right side of the camper, hold with bungee. Do the same with the 3rd and 4th bikes. now use a ratchet strap around the top tubes of all of the bikes and pull them together.

Using more ratchet straps attach from bike rack bumper supports inter weave the strap around the outside bike and attach to right side bumper support. Do the same thing on the inside bike. I also connect the inside bikes to the built in supports.

Beware...The rack can cause bikes to scratch and rub each other.
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Hi, sorry we won't have ours till like May . Would like to ask you also, have you hooked satellite up yet to the camper. I am a worrier and stay up nights thinking of things to worry about with new camper. We physically have not seen this camper so it's really hard. The other night I found out the slide with stove and frige is about 8 inches shorter in dept then our current camper. Just gives me something else to lay awake for.
Sorry I do not have satellite at home or in the camper (we are cord cutters).

As for slide size... The couch, a large pantry, residential refrigerator and 3 burner stove are on the slide, for the 4 of us + 2 dogs it is plenty of room.
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Hi, we have hooked up satellite but we use Dish that does not require power to the dish, only the receiver inside. Son has Direct TV and has to use power from his Vehicle to power the outside portion. It will only go to the living room TV though. Husband is about to re-wire it to be able for the bedroom TV to be able to use it though!!
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Hi, we have hooked up satellite but we use Dish that does not require power to the dish, only the receiver inside. Son has Direct TV and has to use power from his Vehicle to power the outside portion. It will only go to the living room TV though. Husband is about to re-wire it to be able for the bedroom TV to be able to use it though!!
Should be easy to do since the main connection is in the cabinet next to the TV.
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Hi, we have hooked up satellite but we use Dish that does not require power to the dish, only the receiver inside. Son has Direct TV and has to use power from his Vehicle to power the outside portion. It will only go to the living room TV though. Husband is about to re-wire it to be able for the bedroom TV to be able to use it though!!


Wow you would relieve so much of my stress if when your husband does redo it he could possibly send me a pic of how he has it rewired inside the cabinet. We had our last camper actually wired straight from the manufacture so we didn't have to do any of this. Direct to has to have a straight run to LNB on dish making it a passive system. I do all my own installs but this splitter and booster crap they do make it miserable.
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They are tough but doable, unfortunately I do not have Pics.. First DO NOT put a bike with handlebars that stick out too far next to the camper, I have not done it but if you look at it one wrong move and the fiberglass will get a hole in it.

Raise the supports on the rack, position the back (camper side) bike with front wheel to the left side of camper, support with bungee cord. Position the next bike with front wheel towards right side of the camper, hold with bungee. Do the same with the 3rd and 4th bikes. now use a ratchet strap around the top tubes of all of the bikes and pull them together.

Using more ratchet straps attach from bike rack bumper supports inter weave the strap around the outside bike and attach to right side bumper support. Do the same thing on the inside bike. I also connect the inside bikes to the built in supports.

Beware...The rack can cause bikes to scratch and rub each other.

Uggg! I have same bike rack and at first I liked the flip down and keep the tires on concept. Last year I scratched our bikes and bent one rim with the ratchet straps.

Over the winter before camper went into storage I pulled the rack off and I designed and fabricated tire brackets to drop into each slot to hold bikes straight up without being strapped into a big pile.

They are removable so I can still flip rack up.

Can't wait for camper to come out so I can see how it works. I can take pics then too.


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Uggg! I have same bike rack and at first I liked the flip down and keep the tires on concept. Last year I scratched our bikes and bent one rim with the ratchet straps.

Over the winter before camper went into storage I pulled the rack off and I designed and fabricated tire brackets to drop into each slot to hold bikes straight up without being strapped into a big pile.

They are removable so I can still flip rack up.

Can't wait for camper to come out so I can see how it works. I can take pics then too.


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One of the biggest pains with the rack is it has to be flipped down to connect the power and water.

The rack does come in handy to hold other stuff too. Can you send a picture of your rack design?
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I have the 33BHDD and water is in side and my power can be connected with the rack up. Rack up doesn't affect anything thankfully.

Yes soon as camper comes out of storage I will snap some pics and post.


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Glad that I came across your thread.

A 2017 33KRETS is one of a couple TT's that I have my target set on. However, only today realized about the awning placement.

For us, this unit will be parked at our trailer park and not pulled. Our spot is a bit small, but has the best lake spot location, so a Park Model isn't a good option for us. Anyhow...

Being that I'll be parking this and having my deck come off of it, the awning placement is brutal on this unit. Assuming that the awning extends the usual 8' off the trailer, then the first 3 feet are eaten up with the slideout. Meaning but the time my chairs are set up they've close to the edge of the awning versus set back by the trailer. If you're just looking for shade maybe that's fine, but if you want shelter during rain, it seldom seems to come straight down lol.

The outdoor speakers are forward of the door, and there is plenty of footage from the door to the front of the trailer, so why would the awning not be placed there? I've got a message into the dealership, but it's honestly one of those deal breaker's for me as I spend a lot of time sitting on my deck and to have so much uncovered doesn't work well.

The other concern that I have, is that for $50k CAD, the chairs look a bit on the lower quality end whereby I'd likely be replacing them. Versus say the Starcraft 346RE which is one of the trailers I'd bantering between, doesnt have the stainless fixtures, but has great sofa and recliners, and an awning placed where I would have expected the Surveyor awning to be. What are your thoughts on the chairs? Are they comfortable enough that you'd keep them, or would you replace them?

Thanks! Looking forward to your experiences with this unit. Which looks great in many ways.
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