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Old 02-22-2014, 05:08 PM   #1
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Hi there, new to rving and the forum. Was hoping to get some input from people on Forest River as a manufacturer and specifically input from owners of the Surveyor Cadet 321bhts or the Sport 296 model. Appreciate it and thanks for any future help.
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Old 02-22-2014, 05:23 PM   #2
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it would help if provided info on your tow vehicle.
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Old 02-22-2014, 05:36 PM   #3
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Rig isn't an issue, all the numbers work. Its a 2010 f150 with tow package. 5.4l v8 with 3.73 gear ratio. Dry weights have me under the gcvw by 5000, under the tow rating by 4000, think ill have room on axles but have to double check. Will use a stabilizer and trips will be less than 300km(less than 100km almost always) with maybe odd exception every couple years. Kids are 3 and 2 so even then shouldn't be more than 300km in a day
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Old 02-22-2014, 05:43 PM   #4
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Oh and those. Numbers were for the larger 321bhts. Also a 10 year class 1 driver whose driven in most of the worst conditions in the western canadian oil fields so not too worried about large trailer with little truck for such short trips
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Hi phathead19.

I responded to your post in the Welcome Mat forum as well. I wasn't sure if you were monitoring one more than the other.

We have a 2013 Surveyor SP296. It was a new floor plan in 2013. Very pleased with this TT so far. All the counter space with island due to the kitchen slide and jack & jack bunks (4 grandsons) are what sold us on it.

Our TV is a 2010 Ram 1500 Quad Cab 4x4 with a 5.7L.

It pulls the trailer fine, but we are experiencing sway issues with winds and in Saskatchewan it's windy just about all the time.

Have had lots of good suggestions on how to eliminate the sway and comes down to dialing in the WDH better and I'm changing the tires on the truck to a heavier sidewall.

Last year we camped for about 32 nights. Mostly 4 day weekends and trips to the campgrounds were about 100 to 150 KMS.

So far no major issues with the trailer. Any problems we had were cosmetic, such as hinges coming loose and the valance over the sofa fell down. All were easily fixed with different screws and some additional ones. I think our rough secondary highways are more to blame for shaking screws loose.

Hope this helps some.
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Old 02-22-2014, 08:00 PM   #6
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so what is the dry and hitch weight of the trailer you are considering?
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Thank you phil, that's the exact sort of response I was hoping to get. Appreciate itm. And davel1971 the trailer is 7400 and the hitch is 890 I believe. Again those # are for the larger 321
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Thank you phil, that's the exact sort of response I was hoping to get. Appreciate itm. And davel1971 the trailer is 7400 and the hitch is 890 I believe. Again those # are for the larger 321
I know that, but it's one of the trailers you are considering as you said. That trailer is most likely to much for your truck
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Yes, technically your F 150 can tow your TT of 7400 lbs with a hitch weight of 890 = 8290 lbs. But you must also take into consideration your truck's GCWR. You will have to determine this for your specific truck because there are so many variations of the F 150 but with your 3.73 it is about 16,700 lbs.
Your Surveyor has a cargo capacity of 3754 lbs. Your F 150 has a GVWR of approx. 7000 lbs.. If you fully loaded your truck and camper you would exceed your truck's GCWR. 7400+890+3754+7000=19044.
As Davel1971 said, the Surveyor Cadet 321 is too much for an F 150 or you will have to run nearly empty. Even then it would probably be too much.
When looking at the 296 also plug in all of these factors to see how it fits with the GCWR. The GCWR is the more important number, not just the towing capacity.
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Did I miss something? The op seemed to just want info on the trailers in question.
How did the tv become an issue?
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