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Old 02-13-2010, 09:28 AM   #11
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At some point forest river dropped the grand surveyor and combined the "regular" surveyor into one model line (around 2007?)... until the surveyor sport came along. What year is your surveyor? does it have a slide? Have you had any major issues with it? (I gather not, you seem to be happy to own it).

I believe that your surveyor has the torsion suspension. It sure makes for a great towing trailer.
It is a 2007 and I am very happy with it. The only problem was with the AC. One of the tubes in the AC was not propperly attatched and wore through the condensor(sp). It was replaced without any problem. No slide, it tows well and is easy to setup.
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Old 02-13-2010, 10:41 AM   #12
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I thought our initial delivery quality was very good. But I think we have a great dealer that really went over the trailer. We've had 2 issues in the 2 seasons we've had our 235. Water filler tube leak and a broken trolley on the slide. We've camped perhaps 40 nights and towed about 7,000 miles. Sunnysideup has captured the pro's and con's very well. We replaced our mattress with a custom-sized unit from The Original Mattress Factory. Stock unit was HORRIBLE. We've added cabinets to our trailer because of the lack of storage from the factory. Ironically, lot's of storage AREA but not much cabinetry for it. Lot's of functionality for its size though. And easier to get into tight spaces and campgrounds in the mountains for example.
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I thought our initial delivery quality was very good. But I think we have a great dealer that really went over the trailer. We've had 2 issues in the 2 seasons we've had our 235. Water filler tube leak and a broken trolley on the slide. We've camped perhaps 40 nights and towed about 7,000 miles. Sunnysideup has captured the pro's and con's very well. We replaced our mattress with a custom-sized unit from The Original Mattress Factory. Stock unit was HORRIBLE. We've added cabinets to our trailer because of the lack of storage from the factory. Ironically, lot's of storage AREA but not much cabinetry for it. Lot's of functionality for its size though. And easier to get into tight spaces and campgrounds in the mountains for example.
Are you talking about the filler line for the water tank? The one that is under the dinnette seat? If that is I've had to replace mine also! The darn thing had pinhole leaks in it.

We camped 35 nights our first year... not bad considering we didn't get our trailer until june 15! We did 30 ish nights last year. We only have from May till october to camp in my neck of the woods ( a little later if you can find a campground open... ).

There isn't much more to be said about the bed... The ironic part of the 235 is there is ample cargo capacity and space it just isn't utilized the best. I looked carefully at a KZ spree it had much more storage space and is actually a bit smaller. KZ gained the space by having a full length wardrobe at the front of the trailer (where the 235 only goes up 4 ft) and by having a 64" long couch and dinnette. This allows for an extra full length cabinet beside the fridge. The smaller dinnette also allows for the kitchen cabinets/countertop to jut out on an angle leaving much more counter space.
I wish the stove was near the door, it seems like a better setup to me. There is a possibility of splashing/spilling something on the dinnette apholstery with this configuration.

It is great that I can sleep 10 people but I would have rather had the extra storage and counter space. There is only 4 in our family after all (and the bunks are huge!). We have slept a couple extra kids on occasion along with my brother his wife and baby complete with a portable baby crib (pack n play) quite comfortably.

The surveyor is set up for towing with a sloped front end and torsion suspension while the spree had much smaller front bunks a relatively flat front (lots of air drag), sat 12 - 15" higher and had leaf spring suspension. This is why I ended up with the surveyor in the end.

Interestingly, the spree had a cargo carrying capacity of only 1500lbs vs. the surveyor's capacity of almost 3000lbs.

I've attached a couple pics to show the storage difference. Now if I could just have ordered parts of this and parts of that I would have had THE trailer for us!
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It is a 2007 and I am very happy with it. The only problem was with the AC. One of the tubes in the AC was not propperly attatched and wore through the condensor(sp). It was replaced without any problem. No slide, it tows well and is easy to setup.
Without a slide there will be no problems with that in the future. I'm starting to think that simple is a really good thing...
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Yes, we saw very similar trailers at the RV show when we bought ours that had better storage and similar layout and size. But, the ones we saw had only a queen bed and needed outside rails to be mounted for the rear slideout; which was manual; you had to manually push/pull it out. Always tradeoffs! But yes, more storage that i think they really COULD incorporate into the 235.
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And, yes, it was the filler tube. Not pinholes but leaking where it attached to the tank. Didn't leak at all until the tank got full.
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Bob and Shineysideup: Thanks for the clarification. We were aware - but a little confused - by the Forest River info that declared ALL Surveyors were thus equipped, only to find out that the Sports are not. Still, we are very happy with our fully equipped (sort of) SP186. Our dealer told us they could enclose the underbelly and heat the tanks for $800. He further noted that the water lines are on the interior of the unit and that if the tanks are not full, freezing would not hurt anything. We have camped at 22 degrees with no freezing problems. Just unhooked and emptied the fresh-water hose until morning. Anyway, thanks for the helpful information.
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Bob and Shineysideup: Thanks for the clarification. We were aware - but a little confused - by the Forest River info that declared ALL Surveyors were thus equipped, only to find out that the Sports are not. Still, we are very happy with our fully equipped (sort of) SP186. Our dealer told us they could enclose the underbelly and heat the tanks for $800. He further noted that the water lines are on the interior of the unit and that if the tanks are not full, freezing would not hurt anything. We have camped at 22 degrees with no freezing problems. Just unhooked and emptied the fresh-water hose until morning. Anyway, thanks for the helpful information.
Yes it is too bad the way that they describe the different models.

DO NOT let the dealer enclose your underbelly for $800!!! You can put the tank heaters on but enclosing the underbelly will do little good. It isn't insulated (to my knowledge) and is just a cheaper (in my opinion) way of doing things. Now I have duct work in the floor (pain to keep clean), and water lines that run under the trailer (that can freeze).

The heating that they talk about is the heat that comes off the duct work running under the floor. What a joke (in my opinion). Now if the whole underbelly was insulated with dedicated ductwork I could see the point. The material is little more than a plastic type cardboard that I'm sure is not very expensive. We rarely use the propane furnace (VERY LOUD) and usually a small ceramic heater will heat the whole trailer (but not the lines underneath the trailer...)

I know, I know I only paid $22 grand (+ all taxes etc.) for my trailer, what do I expect...
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