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Old 05-04-2015, 08:38 PM   #11
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I'd like to add some fender washers to my tracks as there's a small gap on both tracks near the ends when the bed is in. Did you find there was lots of grip left to tighten things up with the washer?



Hmmmm when was your production date? looking from the front to the rear mine has double wheels on the left and single on the right.... both tracks.
I would say there is a good amount of grip on most of the screws, but the last one seems less solid. I think I am going to change that screw to a #10 (from the installed #8s) and add one just behind trolley at it's furthest point in. HD did not have the #2 square screw heads, so I just bought some of the phillips self tapping screws that are otherwise identical minus dab of white paint.

I was also planning to poke one of the holes with a paperclip or something metal to see if it is going into metal or wood behind that ceiling panel.

I think you are right to do the washers as soon as possible. I might have waited too long and that is why I will likely buy new rails. I used 2 of the small packs of 1/4" x 1" fender washers from HD. That was enough to do all the screws I can reach when the slide is out. Those washers are thin enough for the wheels to roll under.

Production date, hmmm? I cannot say I know that, but mine is a 2011 model year. I will have to check the sticker for the date, but not in this lightning storm

I still think the way the trolleys were is weird and that goes double if yours are the opposite way. In my mind at least, they two trolleys should be mirror images of each other. I don't see any particular reason for any directional necessity with the trolley or track so there may be no engineering reason at all. Just weird looking I guess.
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Old 05-05-2015, 08:44 PM   #12
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I also see the Johnson sells a trolley stop. It appears that stop would hold the track (open) end together, as that is how/where it clamps on to the track.
http://jhusa.net/images/bulkparts/bp...155400x400.jpg

That image also gives me an idea of what the gap should be.

I will definitely order two of the trolley stops. I hope those will help a little bit with the track's structural integrity where the trolley hangs.
I like the idea of the trolley stops. Although my track ends are square now I think once I secure up the tracks with larger screws and washers the tracks may start to stress a bit where they can't flex like they do now.

The wheels on my tracks actually come out past the end about a 1/3 of a wheel so I'm not sure the trolley stops would work in my case.

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I would say there is a good amount of grip on most of the screws, but the last one seems less solid. I think I am going to change that screw to a #10 (from the installed #8s) and add one just behind trolley at it's furthest point in. HD did not have the #2 square screw heads, so I just bought some of the phillips self tapping screws that are otherwise identical minus dab of white paint.

I was also planning to poke one of the holes with a paperclip or something metal to see if it is going into metal or wood behind that ceiling panel.

I think you are right to do the washers as soon as possible. I might have waited too long and that is why I will likely buy new rails. I used 2 of the small packs of 1/4" x 1" fender washers from HD. That was enough to do all the screws I can reach when the slide is out. Those washers are thin enough for the wheels to roll under.
I'm going to pick-up the washers and a couple #10 screws for the track ends tomorrow. I pulled one of the track screws already to confirm the length I need. Looks like 1 1/4" length below the screw head.
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Here is a shot with the two #10 screws installed. I put the second one, just behind where the trolley stops when fully retracted.
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This is with the slide in.
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I can see now (hindsight) that I should have clamped the track where I wanted it before I drilled the horizontal hole. You can see the screw isn't quite horizontal once it trued up the track some. Now for some type of cap/cover. . .


PS I swapped the wheel positions (180 degrees) when I had the trolley off so the both sides now have the two wheels towards their respective outside wall.
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Old 05-06-2015, 08:20 PM   #14
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Thanks for the pics. That definitely confirms one thing for me and that's my tracks are shorter. When the slide is in my wheels peek out about 1/3 of an inch past the ends. No room for a cross bolt or stopper.

FYI Mine's a 2013 and the tracks look exactly the same as yours. Not sure when they become beefier or maybe it's just the replacement tracks or maybe ours are the beefier ones.

I installed the washers and #10 screws today. I ended up downgrading the washer to a 3/8". I went with the better fit on the screw over the size so hopefully they're still OK. I took a good look at my existing screws and I'm pretty sure they were #10s already except for one of the first screws which was a self tapping #8. My first screws were about 6" in from the end and as it turns out one of them didn't have any bite left from all the flexing it was doing. I used that self tapping #8 to start a new hole on both sides about 2" in from the end. Lots of grip there. Nice to know there's wood all the way along the track in case more screws are needed down the road.

Mom wants the bed left out for now so we'll see in a few days how everything works.

Thanks for the suggestions.
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Old 05-19-2015, 05:12 PM   #15
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I was at CW this morning. It appears Keystone has copied the exact setup inside as our trailer has.
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It might be FR that copied them, but I don't recall the earlier Outbacks having these rails.

One big difference though, is that Keystone put an outside slide system on their trailer that has 4 cable supports when the slide is out. They now have several models with king bed rear slides, where in the past I believe they were queen beds. This (230TRS) trailer had almost 0 wasted space. Everything that FR would have covered with a panel is either a cabinet, drawer or cubby.

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Nice cabinets on both sides of the bed, too. . .
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Old 06-17-2015, 09:55 PM   #16
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Cleaned out the rear storage area today and found what looked like a sealed bearing case without sides or the all important bearings. My kid crawled in and snapped some pictures. This doesn't look good. . .




Anyone know who manufactures the slide mechanism in the 2011 235RKS?
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Here are the parts I found on the floor of the compartment.
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It looks like my local shop parts catalog has the part. I will have to check the measurements, though.
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Delivered today! Installation to come.
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Can someone post a picture of the outside top of their rear slide, please? Mine has some tape that I am trying to figure out if F/R did it this way, or if it was a repair job (as it appears).

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Old 08-17-2015, 03:16 PM   #20
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Going camping tomorrow so I'll grab a pic once it's setup if someone doesn't beat me to it.
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