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Old 10-20-2010, 04:26 PM   #11
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I can't say enough thank you to everyone!

My Durango comes with upgraded heavy duty suspension. I first didn't believe it but I went to the dealer and ask for a build sheet. Yes, my suspension system, or whatever combination is, got me to the 10000lbs limit, at least on their book. I saw it with my own eyes. Even without the heavy duty suspension, my setup can still pull up to 7700lb. I think I'm ok.

I know the wheelbase is an issue. I'm going to install a Reese Dual Cam sway control on the distribution hitch.

I asked the dealer to let me test tow the following two trailers:
1. SP295
2. SV291

If it turns out to be a scary exercise, I will then try other shorter models.
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:40 PM   #12
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Sounds like you got a good handle on things. Let us know how they tow.

1 other thing to check is the maximum hitch weights. There should be a sticker on your factory hitch with those ratings.

And I mirror acadianbob's thoughts on the torsion axle suspension......they tow sweet. But my only experience with leaf springs is with a utility trailer and a pop-up, so I don't really have anything to proper to compare with.
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Old 10-20-2010, 04:49 PM   #13
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I love the torsion system. It allows the trailer to sit lower (as you know).

The biggest reason that the camper sits low is because it has an "above the floor" slideout. If it is a "flush floor" slide, the ride height is higher as the slide has to clear the wheel well. If you're comparing the ride of these campers vs other manufacturers, you may well be comparing above floor vs flush floor slides.

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Old 10-20-2010, 07:46 PM   #14
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I believe the reason they ride lower is that the torsion system allows the axle to go right up against the trailer frame. This isn't possible with leaf spring systems.
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Old 10-20-2010, 09:53 PM   #15
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I believe the reason they ride lower is that the torsion system allows the axle to go right up against the trailer frame. This isn't possible with leaf spring systems.
Some newer trailers ( earthbound rv and Visa by gulf stream) actually have the torsion suspension right in the frame. Extremely low ride height. I know someone with a Visa, there is no exterior step! You likely won't find a flush floor slide torsion suspension setup, as mentioned the leaf spring suspension is normally used for this type of slide.

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You likely won't find a flush floor slide torsion suspension setup, as mentioned the leaf spring suspension is normally used for this type of slide.
Actually all Rockwood/Flagstaff campers with flush floor slides do come with torsion suspension, they just add spacers between the frame and the axle mount.

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Actually all Rockwood/Flagstaff campers with flush floor slides do come with torsion suspension, they just add spacers between the frame and the axle mount.

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Cool! Guess that is one of the reasons people love rockwood/flagstaff!
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Some newer trailers ( earthbound rv and Visa by gulf stream) actually have the torsion suspension right in the frame. Extremely low ride height. I know someone with a Visa, there is no exterior step! You likely won't find a flush floor slide torsion suspension setup, as mentioned the leaf spring suspension is normally used for this type of slide.

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Wow! I'm going to have to check those out!!
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Old 10-27-2010, 02:51 PM   #19
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Hello guys.

We did the test tow last Friday. My TV is 06 Dodge Durango.

We test towed two unit: Surveyor 295 and Passport 2590. The Passport is 3ft shorter than the Surveyor and is less than 200lbs lighter. We first tested the 295 with only the Reese WD. No sway control for neither unit.

Surveyor 295 towing impressions:
It was ok. Nothing really exciting. I do find the sway acceptable. It would be much between improved after dual cam sway control is install.
- handling (6/10) -without any sway control
- parking (2/10) - because the unit is slightly longer than my driveway. Backup turning radius is poor.
- ground clearance (2/10) - my driveway is only slightly slopped. It becomes next to impossible to pull into campgrounds here in Alberta without some damages.

Next, we tested the Passport. Oh my goodness! It is much easier to drive and with no sway at all! What a difference. The passport sits much higher than the surveyor but it is much more stable.
handling - (9/10) almost perfect, compare to the surveyor
parking - (8/10) yes, it fits into my driveway!
ground clearance - (10/10) No issue at all

My wife insisted I try the surveyor again. Yes, we did arranged another test tow on the following Sunday. Nothing has changed.

Here is the conclusion:
We aren't going to buy the surveyor.
We aren't going to put an offer for the Passport. My wife isn't exactly thrilled with the interior decor.

We have since looked at a few others and the Aerolite255 looks nice. It is comparable in term of length and weight of the Passport. We did put a deposit for one and guess what, we are going to test tow it tomorrow.

Sorry guys. I guess I'm going to be a surveyor owner after all.
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Sounds like you have done a thorough comparison with those 2 models. Have fun with your continued shopping.....something just right will appear.

Concerning the Aerolite, do a research on the frames. I have heard that there has been a problem in the past with the Norco frames that were used.
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