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Old 03-15-2014, 08:14 AM   #11
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Diesel vs. gas

I pull an 8500 lb fifth wheel around 6-7k miles a year and recently upgraded from a Silverado 6.0 liter 1500 to a Ford F350 diesel. Being an engineer, after accumulating enough data, I did a spreadsheet on fuel cost. I get around 20% better fuel mileage on my everyday running around, about 15% better on interstate mileage, and about 40% better when towing. With about a 1/3 mix of each type, and about 20% higher price per gallon for the diesel and even figuring in the extra cost of oil changes for the diesel, overall it was about break even to slightly lower cost for the diesel. I also did a run assuming a gas powered heavy duty truck, which would have significantly worse gas mileage than my 1500, and the cost advantage for the diesel was significant. However, it would take a lot of years to recoup the extra $10K purchase price for the diesel. Also, I had a few stressful times when getting low on gas, trying to find a station where I could access the pumps, whereas with the diesel, I can always pull into a truck stop. Also, there is no comparison of the comfort/confidence pulling down I95 or in the North Carolina mountains with the heavier truck. Although I don't pull a tow behind, I suspect this effect would be even more pronounced for it with the sway and other challenges you don't have with a 5th wheel.
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Old 03-15-2014, 08:16 AM   #12
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sorry profile hasn't been updated in a while. that was my old truck when I had a 22 ft coyote hybrid. I bought diesel when I bought the trailer
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Old 03-15-2014, 08:45 AM   #13
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right now i have a 2012 dodge ram 2500 diesel that pulls it no problem. The issue i have is that it is killing me in fuel costs. Sure its awesome when i am camping but when not im burning through lots of fuel. That's why im thinking about downgrading to the new 2014 1500 ram with a hemi 5.7 liter. The spec sheet says it will tow no problem, i just want other opinions.
keep the diesel :d
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keep the diesel :d
Yes.

Buy one of these or a cheap jeep use the truck to haul bigger stuff.

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right now I have a 2012 dodge ram 2500 diesel that pulls it no problem. the issue I have is that it is killing me in fuel costs. sure its awesome when I am camping but when not im burning through lots of fuel. that's why im thinking about downgrading to the new 2014 1500 ram with a hemi 5.7 liter. the spec sheet says it will tow no problem, I just want other opinions.

Safety first and always. Keep your 2500 for this camper and get a small old beater daily driver that will give you the high mileage that you want. You have invested a lot on equipment and family, keep your investment safe. Keep the 2500 or something in the same size range.
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I tow my SV305 with my Ram 1500 but my trailer is in a seasonal site, 20 miles from where I live. I have a bit of trouble with sway on this truck and never exceed 60 MPH. I have 1 sway bar hooked up with my WDH and I am considering hooking up the second sway bar to help. I get in the area of 11 MPG. When I tow the trailer, the truck is empty except for me. If I had the family with me, we would be over weight. I would have no problem towing close to home but I would borrow my Dad's Duramax to tow any further than this. My truck is rated at 10,200Lbs but I am over on the payload if I have the family with me. The hemi is more than enough motor to tow this but the truck is a bit on the short side. If I had to do it again, I would really consider the hemi in a Ram 2500. My truck came with the tow package which includes the towing mirrors, large fuel tank, HD tranny cooler, HD shocks, and a 10,200 towing rating. I think I have 3.93 rear end but 20 inch tires.
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I tow my SV305 with my Ram 1500 but my trailer is in a seasonal site, 20 miles from where I live. I have a bit of trouble with sway on this truck and never exceed 60 MPH. I have 1 sway bar hooked up with my WDH and I am considering hooking up the second sway bar to help. I get in the area of 11 MPG. When I tow the trailer, the truck is empty except for me. If I had the family with me, we would be over weight. I would have no problem towing close to home but I would borrow my Dad's Duramax to tow any further than this. My truck is rated at 10,200Lbs but I am over on the payload if I have the family with me. The hemi is more than enough motor to tow this but the truck is a bit on the short side. If I had to do it again, I would really consider the hemi in a Ram 2500. My truck came with the tow package which includes the towing mirrors, large fuel tank, HD tranny cooler, HD shocks, and a 10,200 towing rating. I think I have 3.93 rear end but 20 inch tires.

P or LT rated tires.

If P try a good set of LT rated E or F.

Might make a little difference in the sway and always hook the second bar up.
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Tires are passenger and you are right. Next set will be LT for sure. The tires are part of the reason for the sway I have.
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