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Old 10-29-2010, 07:46 AM   #1
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What jack to use?

Hi, newby here. Just bought a used Surveyor SP-186, and realize that I may not have a suitable jack to change a tire if needed. Do y'all just use your car jack with maybe appropriate height spacers? Jack upon the axle? No info was provided with the trailer and the owner knew nothing. Thanks.
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Old 10-29-2010, 08:01 AM   #2
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Hi, newby here. Just bought a used Surveyor SP-186, and realize that I may not have a suitable jack to change a tire if needed. Do y'all just use your car jack with maybe appropriate height spacers? Jack upon the axle? No info was provided with the trailer and the owner knew nothing. Thanks.
You are right about this. I got a spare tire with no way to change it also.

You have three choices IMO:

1) Sit on the side of the road and wait for AAA.

2) Use a device like Trailer-Aid Black Jack by Camco - RVWholesalers.com RV Parts

3) Buy a bottle jack large enough to hold a MINIMUM of 50% of the total camper weight (8000 pound camper 5 ton bottle jack) because to jack that axle up high enough to get the flat one off and the inflated one on you will be lifting BOTH wheels off the ground on that side. If you don't disconnect from the TV (recommended by most tire changing sites as the most safe) you most likely will be lifting some truck-borne weight too. So go much bigger than you think you might need.
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Old 10-29-2010, 08:16 AM   #3
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10 ton hydraulic jack from places like harbor freight are cheap and work.
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Old 10-29-2010, 08:27 AM   #4
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Or, you can do choice#4 as I do, use your existing wheel chocks to lift the front or rear tire up, just roll the camper onto the chock blocks, and the other tire will be off the ground. The odds of 2 flats on the same side are rare; possible, I suppose, but rare. Randy
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Old 10-29-2010, 08:39 AM   #5
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Ditto for me. Chock Blocks are more stable than a jack any day. One of the benefits of dual axles. I have the same rig. Welcome!
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Old 10-29-2010, 09:28 AM   #6
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I carry 2 bags of "Lego" blocks that would work and I also carry a 12ton short bottle jack "just in case".

I use the "lego" blocks when working on the brakes/bearings and they work great for lifting one tire at a time. Be aware however, that by doing that you ARE overloading one tire. Probably not as much as running over a curb, etc but overloading it none the less.
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Old 10-29-2010, 09:36 AM   #7
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Well, after a blow out you are actually running the other tire at 55-65 MPH with double its rated load for a short period of time while recognizing (if you are lucky) that you have had a blowout, and pulling to the side of the road.

If you fail to recognize you had a blow out, you most likely will have a double failure before long.

You will also have double its rated load for short periods throughout the tire's life while performing driveway-side maintenance.

I think this short time (non-rotational) overload will not hurt the tire or shorten its life by much, if at all. Overloading for any significant time or at high speed will.
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Old 10-29-2010, 01:39 PM   #8
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I have a 20ton bottle jack ( they are only like 10 bux more than an 8 or 10 ton when you get them on sale) and use X-Chocks, however I have CAA Premimum RV coverage and they will come to change my tire if I am patient enough to wait.
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Old 10-29-2010, 02:12 PM   #9
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Old 10-29-2010, 02:37 PM   #10
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Or, you could use Jack Daniel's, and let someone else do the heavy lifting!
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Old 10-29-2010, 05:07 PM   #11
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That Camco Black Jack looks sweet, but it seems that the chock block idea should work fine also. And I just bought some. Thanks for the replies. Now I gotta make sure I have the right socket for the lug nuts; I'll carry my torque wrench.
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I have a device called a "Trailer Aid". I think I bought it at CW. It is a heavy duty plastic device which has a ramp and a depression which the good tire sits in and lifts the flat so you can remove it and install your spare. Used it once and it worked great.
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If you DO wind up with a double flat, chances are you wont have double spares to replace them with, anyway. In which case, you'll need to wait for road assistance to come. Randy
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We had a blowout near Pine Bluff Arkansas a few days ago. Geico arrived in 10 minutes. We bought all new tires in Pine Bluff and hope we are safe for next time. My days of changing tires are over.
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:59 AM   #15
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Go with the leveling blocks, Just build a ramp with them to take you high enough for tire clearance. And leave the trailer connected to the tow vehicle. It is by far the safest way to change it.
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I haven't tried this and now I'm not sure I should. I have the SV-305 with power stabilizer jacks and a power tongue jack. I suppose I thought i would try to get as much lift as I could off of the rear stabilizer jacks and then lift the front with the tongue jack till i had enough height to remove the tire. Does this sound like a bad idea to anyone?
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softwarejoe, what is the weight limit for your stabs and for your power jack? We have a different system than you and I know my stabs won't bear enough weight to lift the trailer and my power jack is 3500lbs. YMMV so check your weight limits. Should be listed with your manuals although my paperwork just says not to try and lift the trailer.
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:48 AM   #18
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I bought an aluminum floor jack from Harbour Freight a few months ago. It has a 3,000# limit. I figured it would be fine for changing a tire on my small Shadow Cruiser 185. I just bought a Surveyor with the independent, torsion-spring suspension. Now I wonder if that's going to be the right jack for my new situation.

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I have two set of chock blocks and for Chistmas I got a "Trailer Aid". I should be ready for anything. I hope I never use any of them on the road, but they do come in handy at home when doing maint.
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