This is a great thread. I own a FR HW pop-up and the past two years we haven't used it between buying a new house, one kid getting married and another in college. We went to a local RV show Monday (my first) and was surprised that they had one measly little 17 foot toy hauler. We did speak to a few dealers and one was trying to sell us a left over (2015 model from last April) Vengeance and was willing to take my pop-up sight unseen, but I hadn't doen any research.
After returning home, I was up all night (self proclaimed research whore) and realized the is the same lay-out and basic features of the Vengeance at a much more reasonable price (even with the one time show deal).
We own two full size motorcycles (a Harley and a Victory) and are looking to purchase in the next month or two. I have noticed as others have said that the mid part of the country has much more stock (most in the northeast say they can order it or have them on order for spring) and better pricing.
Looking forward to joining the pack - pun not intended...