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Old 02-25-2013, 11:29 PM   #31
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Thanks for the info still haven't pulled the trigger
Yet , thinking of ordering a new build with all
The stuff I think I would need power
everything, any other things u think
I should order? Thanks Sam dies anyone
Ever talk price? Don't want to pay too much
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:47 PM   #32
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Was glad we got the vented AC although it would have made sense to put a vent in the bedroom area. They placed 4 vents in the unit but none in the bedroom.??? Get everything powered!!!!
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:49 PM   #33
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And they do make a screen for the rear door.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:39 AM   #34
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The camper is made quick and cheap. Simple as that. What can you afford? I can afford quick and cheap. To my understanding the camper industry is unregulated so they can do pretty much as they wish. It is the nature of the beast.

I replaced my speakers with some Sony X-Plode speakers last night. I made a dome of fiber fill in the cavity to keep the junk out of the speaker. Much better sound. Would have been nice if they could have just avoided a problem that a 5 year old could have seen coming. <rolls eyes>
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:46 AM   #35
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First off this is my opinion owning a 25rr for over a year and 6 trips with in that year. I feel its a great deal for the price. I had one issue with wood chips under the flooring and the factory cover it under warranty no problems. While the floor was being fixed at the dealer I had them install two tie down hooks near the front of the camper. Forest River worked with the dealer to tell them where to properly install them.

We love the open space, being able to fit two full size quads, they layout and the light weight.

As far as the video posted here, It looks to me we have a few young adults working hard to make a living. Glad to see them working hard and not on the government handouts. Any manufacturing facility is going to product as quickly as they can to turn a profit. If you want the same size unit built to the hilt you'll be paying 30,000 plus. If you compare cost to quality I think we're getting a good deal. I think any of these unit 15K to 50K are going to break being hauled down the road at some point.

We did a few simple mods.

We added a Sams club Memory foam topper to the hard mattress. works prefect for me and the wife, we like firm feel with the soft top. IT works great for my bad back. $80

I added a curtain rod across the bad area. $20

A swing arm for the factory flat screen, we can swing it out and each lay on a couch. Very comfy. I mounted the existing wall mount bracket to the swing arm so I can still remove it and mount it outside. Amazon $16 I personally would mount a big TV over one of the couches it make that couch useless if muiltple people are watching TV. Unless you don't need the couch.

We put 1/4 moon shelves in the corners of a few cabinets, it really gives you nice space to sit thing that come out of your pockets. Also added a key holder near door.

Added a paper towel holder above sink.

I have seen a lot of shavings in lights and other corners of the camper. But so far everything has worked and worked well.

I had a buddy buy a 30K all aluminum 24' VRV top off the line toy hauler. you would not believe the nightmare he had with that.

Good luck with your search for a camper
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:08 AM   #36
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Sam sent you a private message on pricing. Ronnie
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:21 AM   #37
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Sam you should not post your number in an open forum! !!!!
Edit post and remove it.
Pm him your number instead! !!
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:40 AM   #38
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To all those that defend quality issues on the campers... I can only say I've seen people in bad relationships defend those also. But you are very correct. If they had done it right I couldn't have bought mine for $15k. It would have been much more. Which is why I said I like my camper but tried to prepare him because he reeked (like I did) of new camper owner. Hence, he is likely unwashed in the ways of the camper industry. You don't mind if I try to prep him a little do you?

Concerning the gentleman to was building a roof on the camper. But I've worked in factories a few times and been witness to many others. Here is some poor gentleman who I imagine has no choice but to move as quick as humanly possible. I'll leave it at that.

Also, if you overhype a good movie it will fail. If you underhype a good movie it can do well. Generally speaking. So if I overly concern him he will feel much better about his purchase and be less likely to be offended by defects in his "cost effective" camper.

Anyway.....
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To all those that defend quality issues on the campers... I can only say I've seen people in bad relationships defend those also. But you are very correct. If they had done it right I couldn't have bought mine for $15k. It would have been much more. Which is why I said I like my camper but tried to prepare him because he reeked (like I did) of new camper owner. Hence, he is likely unwashed in the ways of the camper industry. You don't mind if I try to prep him a little do you?

Concerning the gentleman to was building a roof on the camper. But I've worked in factories a few times and been witness to many others. Here is some poor gentleman who I imagine has no choice but to move as quick as humanly possible. I'll leave it at that.

Also, if you overhype a good movie it will fail. If you underhype a good movie it can do well. Generally speaking. So if I overly concern him he will feel much better about his purchase and be less likely to be offended by defects in his "cost effective" camper.

Anyway.....
Glad to see anyone working hard for a living no matter what color they are. They are good hard working folks. They have a choice where they work or if they choose to educate themselves. I know I had hard jobs when I was younger and I didn't cry about it and I most certainly had a choose. My career path was completely my decision, I own it that decision and don't blame it on anyone else.
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Glad to see anyone working hard for a living no matter what color they are. They are good hard working folks. They have a choice where they work or if they choose to educate themselves. I know I had hard jobs when I was younger and I didn't cry about it and I most certainly had a choose. My career path was completely my decision, I own it that decision and don't blame it on anyone else.

I "LIKE" my camper. I've put considerable effort and money into modifications for it. Check my posts. Right now I'm waiting for the last few parts to come in on a solar project that will be on the order of $3,000 when it's done. 500-600 watts solar into a 60 amp MPPT charge controller.. Oh, and I'll be sharing what I did via a bunch of nice pictures hosted on my own web server. It'll be unique to any solar install I've seen and likely be worthy of copying for anybody that owns a "RR" toy hauler. Would I do that if I thought my "cost effective" camper was a waste of money?

Why people get defensive when I say there just "might" (sarcasm and humor combined) be a few quality control issues in these is beyond me. I often marvel at the passion involved in politics and sports. I know that it is simply the entity being a proxy for the person. Which is why they take it so personally. If your camper is a proxy for who you are and my comments seemed offensive it was not my intent. I only wished to be informative for perspective buyers. I've got enough years behind me that I appreciate it when people try to assuage my idealism in exchange for a reality check.
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