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Old 07-26-2012, 08:09 PM   #351
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Haven't converted it to fold up but use it exclusively for storage w/ Walmart stacking bins. But we don't stack em.
As far as the poor circulation goes, we position an oscillating fan on a hassock out by the pantry cabinet blowing back toward the bedroom. We also plug in a clip on fan on the bunk rail above the bed area and point it toward the bed itself. By pointing about 90% of the air blown from the a/c unit toward the nose of the trailer, this solves the poor circulation issue.

To keep cool in and heat out, we bought a couple of those 16x16, puffy cotton vent inserts to block out the heat from the sun. Then, we put some reflective panels ($10 at the RV store) over the shower skylight. We then hung, with expanding curtain rods, black-out curtains over the front (bedroom) windows. Blocks out quite a bit of light and insulates alot better than the metal mini-blinds do. With the fans and all the roof vents blocked, it blocks quite a bit of heat from coming in to the trailer. It actually gets a little chilly at night!

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I got one of those furry vent stuffer thingy, too. I had a couple of extra auto windshield protectors... shiny aluminum plastic with a little insulation. I cut the down and slip between the window and blind on both bedroom windows. It is so dark now, I over-sleep (that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!). It does keep it cooler too.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:36 PM   #352
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Question Couch Question on 19RR

Hi All,
I was just wondering if anyone ever had any problems with the single strap adequately holding the couch up against the wall. I plan to use my toy hauler garage to haul giant scale aerobatic model airplanes. The wings come off but the fuselages are about 10 ft long and will be fastened to the floor in the trailer. They are expensive toys but are very light in weight and relatively fragile as they are made from balsa and plywood. The couch coming loose and falling on top of a fuselage would be disasterous and costly. Any need to better secure the couch to the wall? Any suggestions? Thanks.

Mike R.
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:02 AM   #353
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I was just wondering if anyone ever had any problems with the single strap adequately holding the couch up against the wall. I plan to use my toy hauler garage to haul giant scale aerobatic model airplanes. The wings come off but the fuselages are about 10 ft long and will be fastened to the floor in the trailer. They are expensive toys but are very light in weight and relatively fragile as they are made from balsa and plywood. The couch coming loose and falling on top of a fuselage would be disasterous and costly. Any need to better secure the couch to the wall? Any suggestions? Thanks.

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Mine has a strap on each end and it seems very secure.
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:55 PM   #354
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I was just wondering if anyone ever had any problems with the single strap adequately holding the couch up against the wall. I plan to use my toy hauler garage to haul giant scale aerobatic model airplanes. The wings come off but the fuselages are about 10 ft long and will be fastened to the floor in the trailer. They are expensive toys but are very light in weight and relatively fragile as they are made from balsa and plywood. The couch coming loose and falling on top of a fuselage would be disasterous and costly. Any need to better secure the couch to the wall? Any suggestions? Thanks.

Mike R.
Mike;
I have pulled the eyelet attached to the cabinets out slightly. It is not from the couch itself, but me strapping the bicycles to that strap. I fold the couch up using the straps on either end. Then I put our two bicycles up against this couch and when I was tightening some ty-down straps through these couch straps and around the bikes, I bowed the whole molding strip between the wall of the camper and the side of the cabinet where the eyelet attaches to just molding. The back eyelet near the rear door for the couch strap seems screwed into something much more substantial. I probably just need to get a hammer and tap the molding along the cabinet back in place and relocate that front eyelet for the couch strap.

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Old 07-27-2012, 08:00 PM   #355
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Hello Everyone!
I've been reading all the mods in this forum and they're great! I've done quite a few myself. This is my first thread.
We took a 5000 mile 2 1/2 week trip out west & loved our 2012 19rr!!! Never had a problem except for a flat tire.
I see the new 2013 models have just an overhead storage instead of a bunkbed. The camper we used to have, you could fold the overhead bunkbed up to just have storage or down for a bed. Plus it gets real HOT where the queen bed is from poor circulation! My question is, Has anybody converted their overhead bunkbed so it would fold up for storage? Thanks
Well, if you modify your bunk, please post pictures and share. I had plans to do the same when I saw that our early 2012 had a solid bunk and the 2011's had the fold up one. I told my wife I was going to cut it in half and make cabinets until my darn Mom came to see the 19RR shortly after we bought it and said "Oh, a bunk bed!... that will be great when you have grandchildren!". Well that shot that idea... now Lucille wants to keep it and we don't even have any Grandkids yet!

As far as the heat, did you notice in the 2013 19RRs they moved the A/C up to the center of the camper (where my crank up vent is) and where it should be. That was my biggest disappointment when seeing the new 2013. I don't know why FR mounted the A/C so far to the back of the camper in the 2012!!!. We have one of those tower, ocillating fans that we set in the corner near the front cabinets and then I crank down the A/C (hey, I am not paying the power bill at the campgrounds!) and typically we are freezing by morning!

I do want to see pictures if you modify the bunk into cabinets. Maybe I can talk Lucille into it if I show her pictures!

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Old 07-27-2012, 08:44 PM   #356
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Well, if you modify your bunk, please post pictures and share. I had plans to do the same when I saw that our early 2012 had a solid bunk and the 2011's had the fold up one. I told my wife I was going to cut it in half and make cabinets until my darn Mom came to see the 19RR shortly after we bought it and said "Oh, a bunk bed!... that will be great when you have grandchildren!". Well that shot that idea... now Lucille wants to keep it and we don't even have any Grandkids yet!

As far as the heat, did you notice in the 2013 19RRs they moved the A/C up to the center of the camper (where my crank up vent is) and where it should be. That was my biggest disappointment when seeing the new 2013. I don't know why FR mounted the A/C so far to the back of the camper in the 2012!!!. We have one of those tower, ocillating fans that we set in the corner near the front cabinets and then I crank down the A/C (hey, I am not paying the power bill at the campgrounds!) and typically we are freezing by morning!

I do want to see pictures if you modify the bunk into cabinets. Maybe I can talk Lucille into it if I show her pictures!

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Hey Tom, I've been reading 'you' for quite a while it seems. I have not seen the 2013, but you are right, I thought about it one day last month while volunteering in Georgia... I thought about blocking the rear facing vent so the other would have more flow... then thought, vents on both end, it should be half way towards the front. I didn't think about the AC located in wrong place until then. I built a shelf next to the so called wardrobe and sat a small 12/110 volt fan on it... to augment air flow. Like you I might be freezing. I didn't make storage where the bunk used to be... I ripped it out, gracefully as it were... or I hope! I have pictures, which I think I posted. But, here they are. I also wonder about the shower wall being vinyl on gypsum only. I would like to go to a thin white plastic... not melamine to make it 'hold up', hopefully. Oh, also I bought a Simmons Beauty Rest full queen since pictures were taken.
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Old 07-27-2012, 09:01 PM   #357
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Mike;
I have pulled the eyelet attached to the cabinets out slightly. It is not from the couch itself, but me strapping the bicycles to that strap. I fold the couch up using the straps on either end. Then I put our two bicycles up against this couch and when I was tightening some ty-down straps through these couch straps and around the bikes, I bowed the whole molding strip between the wall of the camper and the side of the cabinet where the eyelet attaches to just molding. The back eyelet near the rear door for the couch strap seems screwed into something much more substantial. I probably just need to get a hammer and tap the molding along the cabinet back in place and relocate that front eyelet for the couch strap.

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Tom,
My 19RR is a 2013 and came with only on strap on the couch at the back. Not knowing any different, I assumed all came with only one strap. I'm not sure if there should be two on mine nad the front is just missing. I'll contact FR to find out and either way I'll get another strap for the front. I should be sufficient to keep it secure. Thanks.
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WolfWhistle - thanks for the pictures.... that sure looks roomy! I will show those to Lucille.

Mike - I would suggest mounting the eyelet for the clip to the wall of the trailer when you add a front strap, not the molding between the cabinet and the wall as they did in mine.

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Old 07-28-2012, 12:22 PM   #359
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Well, if you modify your bunk, please post pictures and share. I had plans to do the same when I saw that our early 2012 had a solid bunk and the 2011's had the fold up one. I told my wife I was going to cut it in half and make cabinets until my darn Mom came to see the 19RR shortly after we bought it and said "Oh, a bunk bed!... that will be great when you have grandchildren!". Well that shot that idea... now Lucille wants to keep it and we don't even have any Grandkids yet!

As far as the heat, did you notice in the 2013 19RRs they moved the A/C up to the center of the camper (where my crank up vent is) and where it should be. That was my biggest disappointment when seeing the new 2013. I don't know why FR mounted the A/C so far to the back of the camper in the 2012!!!. We have one of those tower, ocillating fans that we set in the corner near the front cabinets and then I crank down the A/C (hey, I am not paying the power bill at the campgrounds!) and typically we are freezing by morning!

I do want to see pictures if you modify the bunk into cabinets. Maybe I can talk Lucille into it if I show her pictures!

Tom
Tom, I will post some pics, cause I'm definitely going to do this. But I'm kinda afraid to just start cutting because the measurement will have to be accurate so you can fold it down for a bunk-bed, or up to cabinets! Our old trailer had this. I wish I would have paid closer attention when we got rid of it!
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Arlenart;

Here is how I would go about it, but there are a lot of others on this thread that are much better carpenters than me (I have seen their work!). Measure from the top of the wood surface of the bunk to the ceiling (I realize that is sort of a moving target with the radius of the front of the camper. What you are looking for is the amount to cut off from the bunk (from the edge back) to be equal to the height between the top surface of the bunk to the ceiling. It might take measuring a few spots till you find that spot, but that is where your cut line should be. That way, if you put 3 hinges or so across the cut you make, when you fold it up to make the cabinet wall, if the "wall" is slightly higher due to the hinge, you can always trim a little back from your cut and leave the "finished" edge of the bunk in tact where it will meet the ceiling.

Once you have that , you could cut some holes out for the cabinet doors and buy the doors from Forrest River. (if you and the wife sleep below on the queen, you can have fun with the person on the bunk buy opening the cabinet doors and kicking their mattress from below. Also might want to get some firm door clasps for those cabinet doors or someone sleeping above might push the mattress down enough to cause the doors to swing open and bonk the folks on the queen below!)

I wasn't thinking about making the cabinets "convertable" like the 2010 and 2011 units. I was thinking of just making them permanent cabinets, but maybe Lucille will go for a convertible version so we would still have the option of a bunk when and if there are grandkids. I guess we would just store that cheap mattress for the bunk and only fold it down and bring the mattress when we know it would be used.

OK... who wants to cut first?!? I went first on reinforcing the kitchen drawers only to watch others after me with more skill do it a much better way!

Tom
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