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Old 02-04-2016, 01:13 PM   #1
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"Oversize" motorhome in a camping site

We have a Berkshire 34QS, which is a 35' 7" long motorhome. When I go to book into RV parks, I often see length restrictions that technically prevent me from using a site. But, there is often a lot of information about the site that it is much bigger. For example, it may be listed as 60' long, or I may look at the satellite maps of the site and see units that must be 40' long fitting comfortably into that site.

Right now, I'm booking into Bronte Provincial Park in Ontario and see that the only 50 amp service is in sites restricted to 32' and less, but the satellite photos and published site sizes show that bigger units can fit in.

I am wondering what the length restrictions are really intended to achieve, when the sites are much longer. Perhaps they are limiting their liability if you can't turn a big rig into a site that they rate for shorter rigs. But, motorhomes (especially Freightliner chassis DPs with a 55į wheel cut) can turn more sharply and compactly than travel trailers, so are these restrictions really for trailers rather than motorhomes? For example, we have a 27' trailer in our back yard parking pad, and it usually takes me 2 or 3 tries before I can turn the corner from the alley and get the trailer into it. But, I backed my 35' Berk into it on the first try without a spotter. (Sadly, I have to do some landscaping to lengthen the pad before I can store the Berk in it.)

So, I am asking for experiences regarding the following questions:

1. Have you every parked in a site that is rated as being shorter than your rig, and been hassled or denied entry by the campsite management, even though you didn't overhang the road and fitted on their gravel pad?

2. If so, what was the campsite? It would be more helpful if we know the category of the site, such as US or Canadian National Park, State Park, Provincial Park, KOA or whatever.

3. Have you had trouble backing into a "smaller" site than the length of your unit? If so, let us know how much too small, and whether you had a motorhome, 5th wheel or travel trailer.

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Old 02-04-2016, 01:22 PM   #2
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I've parked my 36' toy hauler in sites rated as low as 30'. This was in state parks that I had previously been to and scouted which sites I knew I could use.
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Old 02-04-2016, 02:51 PM   #3
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Our fifth wheel is 37'4". The last state park we stayed at limited the site we got to 35'. I have not measured, but I believe they measure the length from the concrete stop at the back of the site to the front. When we backed into the spot, our trailer tires were about a foot from the stopper and we had the truck in front with about a foot to spare. But about 10 feet hung over the back stopper. Jerry.


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Old 02-04-2016, 04:01 PM   #4
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Any reason why you wouldn't call Bronte Provincial Park in Ontario directly?
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Old 02-04-2016, 04:07 PM   #5
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Some parks assume worse case which would be a TT or 5er and tow vehicle. if you had a 35ft 5er and a long bed dually you might not fit in the site. In Maryland State park regulations state that unit and tow vehicle must fit in the site. You can not park along the circle/road. This ia also the case for a MH with toad.
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When we book we always give tt length and have never been turned away. Also give power requirement but can always use 30 amp if 50 not available. Later RJD
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Old 02-04-2016, 04:13 PM   #7
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Yellowstone national park sites that are reserve able are measured from truck bumper to trailer bumper. The reservations clearly state that you must fit/ be under the measurement
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Old 02-04-2016, 04:14 PM   #8
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Our seasonal private ownership campground limits the size due to issues with the campgrounds infrastructure, renters only. The way the sites are configured to the roads, can make it very difficult for the larger RVís to back into (width of road and narrowness/angles of the sites).Drivers of the larger RVís, unfamiliar with the campground roads, turns etc., have also caused damage to sites and property, just getting to their site.That being said, the size limit still allows for up to 40 ft.
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Old 02-05-2016, 10:16 AM   #9
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We have a Berkshire 34QS, which is a 35' 7" long motorhome. When I go to book into RV parks, I often see length restrictions that technically prevent me from using a site. But, there is often a lot of information about the site that it is much bigger. For example, it may be listed as 60' long, or I may look at the satellite maps of the site and see units that must be 40' long fitting comfortably into that site.

Right now, I'm booking into Bronte Provincial Park in Ontario and see that the only 50 amp service is in sites restricted to 32' and less, but the satellite photos and published site sizes show that bigger units can fit in.
Hi Gord

I have been to Bronte and camped in site 114. This site is at the outside of a turn so backing in is no issue.

I have a F550 Crew cab with an 8 foot bed so the whole rig is 51 feet long. I can assure you that you will fit in this site. My truck and trailer are off the road while still hooked up.

The water/dump is to the left of the entry building so you need to do a go around to fill up.

You will need more than 50 feet of cord to get power as the post is near the road. My plug in is at the roadside rear so I could not be any further away.

Good Luck and safe travels.
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Old 02-05-2016, 10:32 AM   #10
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gordonsick If you are wanting 50 amp service you may want to double check that , I have only ever seen 30 amp service at a provincial park, I may be wrong but ask to be sure.
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