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Old 05-28-2015, 12:47 AM   #11
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I installed my PI Hardwired system in about a couple of hours with no electrical experience. The instructions are simple to follow and there are only six wires to connect. The most difficult part was manipulating the less than malleable 50-amp wires. Apart from the PI unit, which I bought from Makarios RV for less than $300 (and free shipping), I also purchased a meter of #6 cable which i used between the unit and the consumer panel. If ever I trade my 5er, this is coming with me. If your unit is a 30-amp rig, consider getting the 50-amp PI unit. That way you are ready for the next, inevitable upgrade to a larger unit. The 50-amp will happily work in a 30-amp rig. Initially, I misplaced the display unit that attaches to the EMS. I phoned PI and they were quite happy to send me a replacement but I managed to find mine again.
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Old 05-29-2015, 01:55 AM   #12
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Another question. I just read that with the hard wired units it will come up with an error code when trying to run the generator unless you manually turn off the ems or add something into your system to make it work. Is anyone using it in a motorhome with a generator and is that completely true?
I have a Progressive Industries EMS-LCHW50. My Georgetown does not have an automatic transfer switch, but an outlet that the 50 amp cord plugs into when using the Onan 5500 generator. The EMS-LCHW50 is installed in the basement compartment replacing the original electrical junction box that attached the 50 amp power cord to the motorhome wiring.

It has never indicated any problems when using the Onan generator. It has however found numerous problems when the power cord is plugged in at campgrounds.
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Old 05-29-2015, 05:00 AM   #13
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Crunchman2001, is the lock going through the surge protector and electrical supply box to address theft?
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Old 05-29-2015, 05:11 AM   #14
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Crunchman2001, is the lock going through the surge protector and electrical supply box to address theft?
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Hi TinkerToy,
Yes, I do lock the unit up for fear of theft and to try to keep everyone honest. The EMS-PT30C has a tab on the cord that you can put a lock onto. If someone really wants it, they'll get it loose. Good news, the neighbor does not lock his.
The pedestal is very low, I need to make some type of box or something to get it off of the driveway and out of the elements.
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Old 05-29-2015, 05:20 AM   #15
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Progressive Industries hands down. With a hardwired unit, attach plugs to make your connections. Ie., incoming power cord fitted with a female connector, "in" to your PI EMS fitted with a male connector, "out" to your EMS fitted with female, and RV's power "in" fitted with a male connector.

In that way you can simply bypass your EMS if needed, or remove it completely to transfer to a new rig.

With portable generators.. yes.. they will trip your EMS. It's very simple to make a bonding plug so you can use your generator without having to bypass.

Using a male 3 prong plug, simply jumper the neutral connection to the ground connection. Or if you prefer, cut off the male end of a heavy extension cord, strip the wires and connect the white (neutral) wire to the green (ground) wire.

Plug the bonding plug into one of the receptacles on the portable generator.
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Old 05-29-2015, 06:08 AM   #16
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If you do decide to go hardwired with plugs, you might check out some installation photos of Turbs.
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Old 05-29-2015, 06:31 AM   #17
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I do agree that Progressive Industires does have a great product. However, just to be cear, the lifetime warranty is really a limited lifetime warranty, with some exceptions.

One of these is if using with a Yamaha EF2000iS generator as per below:

Please be advised the Yamaha Generator Model EF2000iS does not generate enough start-up current which causes the unit to overload. The generator then puts out non-true Sine Wave power. Progressive Industries units are designed to operate only on a True Sine Wave.

For this reason, The Progressive Industries Warranty is hereby void if a EMS Units is used in conjunction with a Yamaha Generator Model EF2000iS, and any damages sustained to the EMS unit are the sole responsibility of the customer.


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Old 05-29-2015, 06:38 AM   #18
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I am probably the only one left who thinks the Franks Autotransformer is the way to go for power protection AND correction.

See my review of the unit at Franks Autotransformers

Being able to "fix" low campground power while everyone else if sweating up a storm cause their air conditioner won't turn over is worth it to me.
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Old 05-29-2015, 07:21 AM   #19
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I am probably the only one left who thinks the Franks Autotransformer is the way to go for power protection AND correction.

See my review of the unit at Franks Autotransformers

Being able to "fix" low campground power while everyone else if sweating up a storm cause their air conditioner won't turn over is worth it to me.
Nope not true lou.
I definitely looked @ the franks and seriously considered it.
The cost "@ the time" was prohibitive.
Albeit I've only been in a low voltage situation once "that I know of" in 2002.

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Old 05-29-2015, 07:35 AM   #20
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Nope not true lou.
I definitely looked @ the franks and seriously considered it.
The cost "@ the time" was prohibitive.
X2. Too rich for my blood considering I've only plugged into a power pedestal 4-5 times in the past year. If I spent the majority of my time in CG's though I would have considered it more seriously.
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