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08-15-2016, 08:25 PM
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275ulsbs still no fun to pull
After going through many procedures and weighing everything on the truck scales, adding generator to front rack and 2nd battery to get the right tongue weight, this trailer still sucks to pull. The rear garage is supposed to be good for 1500 lbs. My rzr weighs 1100 and that is the only thing that goes in there? Backed in as close to the sliding door it can be.
I'm towing with 98 2500 cummins, Reese dual cam WDH and one Curtis anti sway. I built the truck myself and its laid down 430hp and 850 ft/lbs at the wheels, it's not a power issue. I'm starting to believe the sway I get is just due to the fact the 10' garage is completely out behind the axles and the weight should be limited to less then 1000 lbs in the back. What shocks me is I've seen this trailer advertised as a 1/2 ton towable. Yeah right that would be fun. I've checked trailer wheel alignment and do not know what else to do.
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08-15-2016, 08:43 PM
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Is your wdh adjusted properly? Ideally your reese should be adjusted to return the front axle to as close to unloaded weight as possible without going heavier. Next check your cams. Pull forward about 100 ft straight on flat level ground. Make sure your cams are sitting correctly in the saddle.
These links are very helpful for the dual cam. It us very hard to get adjusted properly. Ask me how I know.
Travel trailer hitch setup procedure
wdh, how it works.
Next, are you within your payload and tow capacity? Is your tongue weight under or over your hitch receiver ratings? What size bars are you running on your wdh? What is your tongue weight?
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08-16-2016, 02:01 AM
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Have you tried pulling with the garage empty yet? Does it tow better when empty?
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08-16-2016, 05:08 AM
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What is your TW % "Loaded Ready to Go Down the Road"? I would like to see a Pic of your "Reese Dual Cam with the Added Curtis Anti-Sway also! What are your TT Tire Specs,pressure,Brand? Youroo!!
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08-16-2016, 12:54 PM
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You said you built the truck. Is it jacked up, or have aftermarket wheels and tires with non stock offset? Looking at all possibilities.
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08-16-2016, 02:54 PM
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I'm curious about the sway control bar plus the Reese dual cam. That's the first I've heard of doing that. I'm wondering if one is canceling the other out. Friction vs torque. I have know idea if that is plausible or not. Just floating the idea. When I had a sway issue I thought about airbags but an E-trailer rep told me that airbags were not recommended with sway control because they fought each other. I'm no expert by any stretch but that's what I was told. I hope you figure it out. Sway can make a trip miserable.
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08-16-2016, 03:35 PM
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X2 trying it with the garage empty. I would also check the tire pressure and ensure it is at max.
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08-16-2016, 03:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TakeItEasy
Have you tried pulling with the garage empty yet? Does it tow better when empty?
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As Above. Try towing empty. Let us know. Good Luck.
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08-16-2016, 05:14 PM
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hey,blktegra. I tow a 35' toy hauler TT with a 3/4 ton. I have an 11' garage that I put a 1260 pound sxs in. I am very tongue heavy w/o the sxs loaded.
I found out by going to the Cat scales that loading the sxs takes 300 pounds off of my tongue weight! This also returns my TV front axle to within 1/4" of not having my TT hooked up. It's a fine balance having that much weight completely behind the TT axles. IMHO I think you may have a light tongue weight issue. There many people on this forum with a whole lot more tow weight knowledge then I have. Hopefully they will be able to help you out.
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08-18-2016, 07:01 AM
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Blktegra. Where did you go? You posted about your unhappiness with your unit, people have responded, but you haven't been back. ????
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08-18-2016, 07:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Springerdad
Blktegra. Where did you go? You posted about your unhappiness with your unit, people have responded, but you haven't been back. ????
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He probably works for a living and won't be back till his shift ends.
someone has to keep that social security check of mine funded.
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08-18-2016, 08:09 AM
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What tires do you have on the TV?
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08-18-2016, 12:35 PM
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I have the same hauler and with a 1000+pound SxS and a generator in the garage, it tows like a dream.
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08-18-2016, 06:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShermanD
He probably works for a living and won't be back till his shift ends.
someone has to keep that social security check of mine funded.
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Nailed it! I'm a project manager currently supervising construction of a new rest area off the highway. And while I appreciate everybody's input there are many questions I need to respond to that yall have asked. It's to hard for me to do from the phone so I've been waiting until the weekend to sit down in front of the computer so I can view the whole post.
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08-19-2016, 06:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blktegra
Nailed it! I'm a project manager currently supervising construction of a new rest area off the highway. And while I appreciate everybody's input there are many questions I need to respond to that yall have asked. It's to hard for me to do from the phone so I've been waiting until the weekend to sit down in front of the computer so I can view the whole post.
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Great! We all look forward to the opportunity to help!
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08-19-2016, 05:40 PM
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Hopefully we can get this fixed up for you!
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08-21-2016, 09:05 AM
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If you have Anti Sway on your TV turn it off. These do not work well with WD/ Anti Sway Hitches. If both are left on they work against each other and will scuff the edges of your tires and your sway and Anti Sway will be exagerated.
Jack
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08-21-2016, 09:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaherbst
If you have Anti Sway on your TV turn it off. These do not work well with WD/ Anti Sway Hitches. If both are left on they work against each other and will scuff the edges of your tires and your sway and Anti Sway will be exagerated.
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Interesting. I've never had any issues with my Silverado. Actually, never even thought to turn it off. Is that problem brand specific?
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08-21-2016, 09:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Springerdad
Interesting. I've never had any issues with my Silverado. Actually, never even thought to turn it off. Is that problem brand specific?
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Not really but if you are having problems with sway and have a WD/Sway hitch and anti sway on in your truck try turning the anti sway feature off. Sway will be exagerated in a strong crosswind with both on. They work against each other and you will notice scuffing on the outside edges of your tires where sidewall and tread meet. I have had this problem with Chevy and Ford Anti Sway with two different trailers.
Lighter and shorter trailers will not need the WD/Sway hitch and the anti sway feature works great. Longer and heavier trailers that require a WD/Sway hitch are not very compatible with the anti sway feature that is built in to your TV. This is more prevalent with strong crosswinds.
Jack
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08-21-2016, 09:49 AM
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I am wondering
if your build on your TV included all new suspension components. There are so many bushings, spacers, etc. that could affect sway. Things get pretty worn out after almost 20 year and might not show up as an issue until under the added stress of towing.
Just thinking out loud a bit here. Hope you get it figured out.
Happy Camping
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