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Old 05-09-2013, 03:33 PM   #11
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I am about 99% sure his problem is not with HOW MUCH weight but rather WHERE that weight is. Take ependydad's advice about getting those weights.

True!
It would also seem that he is overweight or close to it with a bumper pull with a gvw of 13k and a 7k truck. I doubt that his receiver is rated for 13k. That is a heavy BP and with the weight behind the axles that would be plain disastrous.
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:33 PM   #12
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I wish the sales people where we bought this Work 'n Play (Camping World, Spartanburg) were as knowledgeable and honest as all of you! We were very candid with our needs...
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Cargo Carrying Capacity 4,982 lbs. (2,260 kg)

This rating is not only for the cargo area, it is for the full trailer (water, clothes, groceries, beer etc etc), so for the cargo area itself it would be less than that number. As other said, you need to get some weights and go from there.
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:45 PM   #14
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I wish the sales people where we bought this Work 'n Play (Camping World, Spartanburg) were as knowledgeable and honest as all of you! We were very candid with our needs...
I'll give 2 answers to this.

1) I think we all overestimate the knowledge of sales people at dealerships in general. After all, they're in the business and this is what they're Jon is. Why wouldn't they know what they're doing? The truth is- I'd love to see a survey of how many are campers/RVers themselves. I know my experiences, even with specific models was that I went in armed with more info than most of the folks I've dealt with (but I'm a geekly book learner).

2) I think there are exceptions, but they're trying to make a sale. Looking at the gross numbers, they want to get you sold and get that commission check. On the forum, we aren't selling you.
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Need to weigh your set up but it sounds like you are weigh (LOL) overloaded..... Most garage areas are rated at 2000 - 2500 lbs.... Cargo of 4900 includes propane, options of the trailer, gear, water in all tanks,+ Our TH dry weight started at 9200 but with options came in at 9650 so 450 of our capacity was just trailer options...........

By putting all the weight in the back will make the front end of the trailer light & sway will be dangerous..........60% of the weight of any trailer should be in front of the axles....

Toyhaulers are not built to be cargo haulers it just plain will not work............. good luck but your scale weight should tell the story.............
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Because you had no issues when hauling a lighter load, and also by putting part of the heavier load to the front, I think you have answered your own concerns. You simply cannot put 4000 lbs at the back of the trailer, which causes the hitch to be very light. That is a well-known cause of big problems on the highway.
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I'll give 2 answers to this.

1) I think we all overestimate the knowledge of sales people at dealerships in general.

2) I think there are exceptions, but they're trying to make a sale. Looking at the gross numbers, they want to get you sold and get that commission check. On the forum, we aren't selling you.
Unfortunately I am afraid you are right. But I depend on a plumber, electrician, architect and lawyer to all do their jobs and know their industry. Why do we settle for less from sales people? Sorry to rant, I am grossly off-topic...

We originally purchased the WnP because it had the largest cargo capacity of any TT toy hauler we looked at. Does anyone know of an option for what we are looking to haul in a TT?

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Does anyone know of an option for what we are looking to haul in a TT?

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Not for the weight you are looking to carry, unless you want to go to a huge fifth wheel.
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Not for the weight you are looking to carry, unless you want to go to a huge fifth wheel.
I'm not sure he's gonna find a fifth wheel that he can place 4K in the rear of. But they may be out there. Can't imagine what the unloaded pin weight would be on it.
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There are custom Work and Play trailers out there (typically by equestrian makers) that are made to exactly what you want.

A goosneck horse trailer to start, then made into what you need.
Just a suggestion.

A place here in Denver called Five R does them.
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