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Old 01-02-2012, 07:13 PM   #1
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I'm in the process of purchasing a used 21ft. Shamrock. I'm going to be pulling it with a 2005 Ford Escape Limited. It has a Class II hitch. What size of ball hitch does the Shamrock require? Any other suggestions or comments would be appreciated.

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Old 01-02-2012, 07:18 PM   #2
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Don't know for sure until you actually see it. I imagine either 1 7/8" or 2". If you can contact the current owner, you can ask him/her.
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:31 PM   #3
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I'm in the process of purchasing a used 21ft. Shamrock. I'm going to be pulling it with a 2005 Ford Escape Limited. It has a Class II hitch. What size of ball hitch does the Shamrock require? Any other suggestions or comments would be appreciated.

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are you sure it's a 1998 Shamrock? is it a hybrid?
because the first hybrid FR made was the Rockwood Roo and that was in the 1998 model year line.
and i'll bet a 21' TT is going to be way over the 3500lbs. tow max of the Escape.
and a class II hitch isn't enough for a 21' TT!
you'll need a class III/IV receiver and a WDH with sway control.
but you seriously need to rethink the Escape!
who told you it could tow a 21' travel trailer?
it's usually only adequate for popups, with its short wheelbase and 3500lbs. tow max.

is it this one?
http://www.charlottervcenter.com/vie...-Shamrock.html

the actual weight before you add cargo, will be near 3000lbs.
and the tongue weight alone, will be over the Escape's max.
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Having driven an 04 Escape V6 for 3 years I would not recommend a full height travel trailer of any size at all, it would be white knuckle driving at best -- let alone a 21ft model!
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Having driven an 04 Escape V6 for 3 years I would not recommend a full height travel trailer of any size at all, it would be white knuckle driving at best -- let alone a 21ft model!
I really appreciated your advice. I assumed that I could pull that camper because it was listed with the pop ups. I'm going to look at a Coleman, Hi-Lo, or Aliner.

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Another one similar to the Hi-Lo you may want to consider is the TrailManor. They fold up pretty neat and are very easy to tow.
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I really appreciated your advice. I assumed that I could pull that camper because it was listed with the pop ups. I'm going to look at a Coleman, Hi-Lo, or Aliner.

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Your choices have less to do with the style of trailer (popup vs TT) and more to do with the weight limits of your Escape and the weights of the camper. I encourage you to learn the weight calculations every camper needs to know, regardless if its a hybrid, TT, pup, or brand of the same.

The 2005 Ford Escape Limited is said to have a max towing cap of 3,500lbs (from Edmunds) and a class II trailer hitch is limited to a 300 or 350lb tongue weight.

That TW is the killer when talking about towing a camper. A 350lb tongue, assuming that its a reasonable 13% of the trailer weight would mean you are limited to a trailer weighing no more than about 2,700lbs. This is for a fully loaded trailer as well, so assume your cargo as an addition to the dry weights you will see listed.
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I really appreciated your advice. I assumed that I could pull that camper because it was listed with the pop ups. I'm going to look at a Coleman, Hi-Lo, or Aliner.

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Anthony

good decision. and a hybrid has no business being listed with popups. it's a travel trailer that has fold-out beds.

just a note, FR recently started building A-frame popups and they appear to be equal to the Chalet and A-Liner, but a lot cheaper with more features.
check out some of the A-Frame posts here under their section.
seems to be lots of happy and satisfied owners.
there made under the Rockwood and Flagstaff line and are twin lines.

http://www.specialtyrvsales.com/inve...ries-A128.aspx
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