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Old 09-29-2014, 10:35 AM   #1
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2013 23IKSS - Latch issues

Love my 23IKSS. After a trip last weekend, I notice the rear latches handles had both come unscrewed a little. Having had water damage to other campers in the past, I immediated assumed the worst. I screwed them back in tight ... and it appeared that they were not stripped. I also inspected the front at this point. The handles were fine ... but where the latches were attached to the bed end, it looking as if they had caused the fiberglass to pull away from something. Never noticed at the dealer ... and to be honest ... it's hard to see. It looks like both sides have pulled away in a "square" patern. Not bad ... but doesn't look right. The camper hasn't been used much by the previous owner (2013). It's only 1 year old. We've camped in it twice since our purchase on August 31st. I have a cover that I have over my camper when in storage. I also treat the seals after every trip.

Questions: Why would the screws back out from travel? Do the screws go into wood, or metal framing. Has anyone experience this? Has anyone used bolts instead of scews for the handles? Has anyone experience water getting in behind the latch itself?

Anything else you can mention, related to this, would be very appreciated. Love to camp ... LOVE my camper ... looking to make it last.
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Old 09-29-2014, 10:55 AM   #2
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Welcome to the forum!

We had some issues with the bunk latches on our 2013 IKSS as well. Our dealer sells a lot of Roo's and they said they had not seen this problem beofre. I attached a pic - but I read your post as the part of the latch that is screwed into the wall is backing out. Our back latches did that last year. Took it in and they tightened and re-sealed them. Everything was fine until the end of June, and they both popped loose again. At that point I also noticed one of the front latches was loosening up. They would still tighten, but when they work loose, the sealant pulls apart, so water can get into the screw holes.

Took it back to the dealer. They confirmed the screws do go through the aluminum framing. Since this had already been fixed once, the service guy suggested the same fix I was going to ask them for - to drill through to the inside and install carriage bolts with washers & nuts on the inside and then re-seal around the latches. So that's what they ended up doing. Seems like a permanent fix. I don't have a picture of the inside, but I could get you one if you want.

Funny thing is, the latch bolt on the outside lines up with the bracket that holds the tent cable on the inside - seems like it would have been easy to fabricate those brackets at the factory to accept a through-bolt and make them that way at the factory.
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Old 09-29-2014, 10:58 AM   #3
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just bought a 2015 23ikss and still going through it (appears the qc at the factory missed a lot). But, in these forums I've read where the seals leak (at times) when closed. That could be the issue why your seeing the skin delaminate and the skews loosen.
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Using a Trhough boltwil probably be my approach if they continue to back out. Did you need any reinforcement on the inside wall of the camper for the through bolt? Di you use a large washer on the outside?

Also, how does your front laminate look near your latch? is it flat ... or does it apear to be pulled a little?

We love our 23IKSS. How about you? Tons of room for a hybrid!
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Old 09-29-2014, 11:09 AM   #5
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Hi KMp44 and Slussman, it appears they changed the latching mechanism for 2015 (kmp44, your pics look identical, minus the pulling out part, to the 2010 StarCraft we traded in for the 23ikss). The new latches don't require a step stool for us vertically challenged people to reach them in order to latch them.
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Deartruc, Can you send a picture? Maybe I'll switch mine out with the 2015 latches if it's not too expensive.
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I took this off of a dealers website (2014). And a pic from mine. The latch acts more like a car door lock. One mod I made right away was to take 1" pipe insulation and cut two inch pieces to go over the striker. When the bunk is down they stick out which I can see my kids foreheads getting scraped and black and blue's on my shoulders in the future if I didn't.
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Using a Trhough boltwil probably be my approach if they continue to back out. Did you need any reinforcement on the inside wall of the camper for the through bolt? Di you use a large washer on the outside?

Also, how does your front laminate look near your latch? is it flat ... or does it apear to be pulled a little?

We love our 23IKSS. How about you? Tons of room for a hybrid!
I'll get a couple pictures tonight - no washers on the outside. On the front, there is one small bubble where it started to de-lamintate. The guy that did the work wasn't in when I picked it up, so I don't know if he did anything for that or not, but after he was done, everything was sealed up and the bubble is barely noticable. I'll keep an eye on it, but I think as long as no water is getting in, it shouldn't get any worse.

Its a pretty simple fix - just have to take your time when drilling through. We had the second year warranty, so I had the dealer do it, but it could be a DIY job.

Just my opinion - but I would stay away from the new latches. They don't look as rugged to me. They are easier to reach, but I'm 6'7" so I can reach the old ones just fine. They also took the outside pass-through door into the kitchen off the 2014's, and changed the graphics for 2014 or 2015, so for once, I like having the older model better.

Other than the latches, which was an easy fix, and the cheap junk tires (also an easy fix - replace 'em on our dime after two warranty band-aids from FR) we have been super happy with this camper. It was exactly what we wanted and we have used it every chance we get. Easy to tow, fits into small sites, all the features of a bigger camper, tons of room, tons of storage, price was right. We really wanted a good sized kitchen, which most hybrids don't have, but the second slideout and the island is a great design. We like the fact that we still get the outdoors "camping feel" we had with the popup, but when this floorplan came out, it was an easy choice to upgrade.
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Old 09-29-2014, 01:06 PM   #9
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Never had a latch problem with the 2010 starcraft and the 2015 roo is brand new (haven't even had a maiden voyage yet). But, being 5'8" I had to run around the camper to latch and lock the bunk ends. Not a real biggie, did it for 5 years. Though I would use a step ladder and not the iron step that came with the camper you slid into the frame as you walked around the corners. What's funny about the floor plan is they still list your floor plan when you look at the 2015's (missing access door on the kitchen slide and the stove is reversed)
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also, i don't know how the factory wired your radio but on mine they wired 3 of the four speakers to the right channel and only the outside left speaker to the left channel. I rewired it this weekend so that the 'a' channel was left and right inside, no 'b' channel needed with only 2 speakers inside, and 'c' i left alone. I also found the 'a' channel is dynamic surround with a subwoofer out, so i put an 8" sub in too.
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