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Old 05-04-2015, 09:03 PM   #1
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2015 vs 2016 23IKSS

Hey all,

First time here.

After researching campers last summer, I think it's time we finally pulled the trigger.

Two adults, 8 year old kid. Sometimes we camp with another family, but not sure we'd host them in our camper. To date we just get adjoining campsites for tents.

I *think* the 23IKSS floor plan would work best for us, given the small amount of people we intend to house?

Settled on a hybrid trailer because we like the feeling of camping, but just want a few more creature comforts. Tow vehicle is a 1 ton.

Found a 2016 Shamrock 23IKSS for 21k, pretty loaded. Does not have stainless appliances, wood floors, heated holding tanks or thermopane windows. Has 13.5k AC, too.

We don't plan on doing any below freezing camping, so the lack of thermopane and heated tanks shouldn't be a concern, right?

Anyone know what they changed for 2016?

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No changes from 2015 to 2016 but there will likely be fabric color changes at some point in 2016. Those seem to change mid year.


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Yes the interior colors so far is all that I see. We were going to wait and order but pulled the trigger on a late 2015 Saphire 23IKSS Loaded only options I don't have is SS Appliances, 15K AC and we love it came from 27 foot TT but this so much more versatile and easy to use.

We paid in the area of $21K and got a good amount of $ for my trade. I have learned a lot from folks here good place for info but what a great model Hybrid. We were originally looking at Prime Time Crusader 294/295 but didn't have the room the Roo did and did not want to spend nearly $2K on hitch and airbags. I tow with a 2014 F150 AWD Crew Cab EcoBoost no issues


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Hey all,

First time here.

After researching campers last summer, I think it's time we finally pulled the trigger.



I *think* the 23IKSS floor plan would work best for us, given the small amount of people we intend to house?

Settled on a hybrid trailer because we like the feeling of camping, but just want a few more creature comforts. Tow vehicle is a 1 ton.

Found a 2016 Shamrock 23IKSS for 21k, pretty loaded. Does not have stainless appliances, wood floors, heated holding tanks or thermopane windows. Has 13.5k AC, too.

We don't plan on doing any below freezing camping, so the lack of thermopane and heated tanks shouldn't be a concern, right?
Its usually 3 of us as well - this layout works great. If you like the tent feel but want the amenities of an rv, a hybrid should out nicely.

Location (distance from the factory) can play a big roll in price, but sounds like a good price. Heated tanks on a hybrid are pretty useless imo. The stainless appliances are just a fingerprint magnet and one more thing to clean, so I wouldn't want that either. Thermopane windows might be nice in the fall to help with condensation, but they are an expensive option, so hard to justify the price.

The options I do really like - power tongue jack, slide topper, night shades, aluminum wheels. If you are going to have additional people - the air mattress sofa bed is a good thing to have. The jackknife couch is fine as a couch, but pretty useless as a bed for anyone larger than a toodler.
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Its usually 3 of us as well - this layout works great. If you like the tent feel but want the amenities of an rv, a hybrid should out nicely.

Location (distance from the factory) can play a big roll in price, but sounds like a good price. Heated tanks on a hybrid are pretty useless imo. The stainless appliances are just a fingerprint magnet and one more thing to clean, so I wouldn't want that either. Thermopane windows might be nice in the fall to help with condensation, but they are an expensive option, so hard to justify the price.

The options I do really like - power tongue jack, slide topper, night shades, aluminum wheels. If you are going to have additional people - the air mattress sofa bed is a good thing to have. The jackknife couch is fine as a couch, but pretty useless as a bed for anyone larger than a toodler.

They are not making the air mattress beds anymore ours is a full sleeper with foam mattress quite comfy though we always carry a spare Queen blow up mattress for friends camping in tents etc

Why are the tank heater pass a waste we camp in March temps go lower then 30 so freshwater stays liquid and both tanks don't get thick? It just happened to be an option on ours but all the other stuff like Aluminum wheels, night shades, slide topper provide more usefulness


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Why are the tank heater pass a waste we camp in March temps go lower then 30 so freshwater stays liquid and both tanks don't get thick?
We camp in weather where its in the 20's at night. Nothing freezes. If you are talking about extended cold where it doesn't get above freezing during the day, that's another story.

But either way, small water lines, especially exposed ones like the outdoor shower will freeze long before the tanks. It takes a while to freeze a full tank - and in a hybrid, you'll have a host of other challenges before you get to the point where you have to worry about frozen holding tanks.
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Thanks everyone for the help. The unit I am looking at does have the hide-a-bed (and power tongue jack, night shades, power awning, slide topper, and aluminum wheels).

So any regrets from anyone doing the 23IKSS floor plan with the kind of use I described? The extra bed on the 233S is interesting should we want to put two families inside...
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So any regrets from anyone doing the 23IKSS floor plan with the kind of use I described? The extra bed on the 233S is interesting should we want to put two families inside...
We have an early 2015 23IKSS that we purchased last June. No regrets whatsoever

We are two adults and three teenage kids. Mom & dad are in the front bunk, girls are in the back bunk and our son gets the airbed. We've had eight sleeping in it and it was tight, but it worked and it was a heck of a lot roomier than our old tent. It is also great to have so much floor space on rainy days when we're all stuck inside.

Some of the new features on the late 2015's and I'd imagine 2016's too are that they are prepped for solar panels and also have a black tank flush system factory installed.
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In looking at the 23 IKSS, you may look at the Rockwood line up as well.

We got ours here Late 2015 Saphire Loaded www.mcgeorgesrv.com

They have two white ones left and two Saphires, was not fond of the interior color and patterns so went with Saphire and Love this trailer


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Thanks everyone for the help. The unit I am looking at does have the hide-a-bed (and power tongue jack, night shades, power awning, slide topper, and aluminum wheels).

So any regrets from anyone doing the 23IKSS floor plan with the kind of use I described? The extra bed on the 233S is interesting should we want to put two families inside...
The 23 IKSS is a great floor plan. I seriously considered that also before settling on another popup.

The only slight complaint people mention (and it is slight) is that the kitchen slide takes away some awning space under it. It is only a foot or so of space so not a huge deal. But people do mention it occasionally. To me, the vast interior space more than makes up for a bit of outside space lost.

Enjoy your camper. It is a great model. Your family will love it.

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