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Old 10-01-2016, 07:09 PM   #1
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2016 Shamrock 17 pull w/2016 Jeep Cherokee w/tow pkg

new to hybrids, stepping up from tent camping. We have a 2016 Jeep Cherokee with 3.2 v6 with towing package. Gross towing weight for Jeep is 4500 lbs. Is anyone out there pulling a Shamrock 17 with this vehicle? Since we are new to this type of camping and reading so much data on gross weights, just want to make sure that the 17 is not too much for the Jeep?? Thanks in advance for any replies.
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Old 10-01-2016, 07:54 PM   #2
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I don't pull with a Jeep... I pull a 183 (similar to 17)

but below find the numbers in hopefully an understandable format.

published base weight of Shamrock 17 = 3150#
add propane and battery = 3250#
add 200# of goodies inside = 3450# gross trailer weight
published Jeep Cherokee max towing = 4500# weight or about 1000# less than max capacity

published 17 tongue weight = 346 or 11% of base weight of 3150#
tongue weight at 3450# = 380# @ 11% or 414# @ 12% (call it 400#)

Jeep Cherokee payload = ??? cannot find a rating published online
Grand Cherokee is listed at 1396# to 1955# payload

Payload we know of (estimated) is tongue weight (400#) + two adults @ 180# (360#) + WDHitch (75#) + loaded gear in Jeep (200#) = 1035#
so your payload is about 350# to 900# less than capacity

Just by doing the numbers, it appears that you are good to go... even figuring 80% of published vehicle specs, which some on this forum consider to be needed as a safety margin, you seem to be good to go.... just watch your loading extra pounds in trailer and vehicle.

Get a CAT scale weigh of trailer before running anywhere and do some research to verify these capacity numbers.

hope this helps some
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Old 10-01-2016, 08:29 PM   #3
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Post what the payload capacity is for your Jeep.
It listed on the driver's door yellow sticker.
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Your jeep manual should have a complete section on towing. You'll probably need a brake contoller also. Also may want to buy a weight distribution hitch, it ain't gonna hurt anything to have one. Harbor frieght has one that works just fine. Because even if you are 1000#s below capacty, it's gonna sag.
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Post what the payload capacity is for your Jeep.
It listed on the driver's door yellow sticker.
The combined weight should not exceed 1000#
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Your jeep manual should have a complete section on towing. You'll probably need a brake contoller also. Also may want to buy a weight distribution hitch, it ain't gonna hurt anything to have one. Harbor frieght has one that works just fine. Because even if you are 1000#s below capacty, it's gonna sag.
Yes i will get a brake contoller and dealer suggested the weight distribution hitch, thanks
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I don't pull with a Jeep... I pull a 183 (similar to 17)

but below find the numbers in hopefully an understandable format.

published base weight of Shamrock 17 = 3150#
add propane and battery = 3250#
add 200# of goodies inside = 3450# gross trailer weight
published Jeep Cherokee max towing = 4500# weight or about 1000# less than max capacity

published 17 tongue weight = 346 or 11% of base weight of 3150#
tongue weight at 3450# = 380# @ 11% or 414# @ 12% (call it 400#)

Jeep Cherokee payload = ??? cannot find a rating published online
Grand Cherokee is listed at 1396# to 1955# payload

Payload we know of (estimated) is tongue weight (400#) + two adults @ 180# (360#) + WDHitch (75#) + loaded gear in Jeep (200#) = 1035#
so your payload is about 350# to 900# less than capacity

Just by doing the numbers, it appears that you are good to go... even figuring 80% of published vehicle specs, which some on this forum consider to be needed as a safety margin, you seem to be good to go.... just watch your loading extra pounds in trailer and vehicle.

Get a CAT scale weigh of trailer before running anywhere and do some research to verify these capacity numbers.

hope this helps some
Thanks, for the detailed explanation! Just what we were looking for.
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Old 10-03-2016, 11:35 AM   #8
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I have a Lincoln MKT (Ford Flex) which is a V6 Ecoboost, and it also id rated for 4500#. I had a Roo 17 and had absolutely no trouble towing it. I did not use a WDH with the 17 and never had any issues. I suspect that your Jeep probably has stiffer rear springs that the Lincoln has, which should make it better, so it is up to you about a WDH. I have since traded in the Roo 17 for a Roo 19 and my TV is still the Lincoln. I just did a 6200 mile trip out west and the MKT did fine. The Roo 19 is about 800# heavier that the 17. I did add an Andersen WDH when I got the 19. It is a great hitch and I can give my endorsement unreserved.
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The combined weight should not exceed 1000#
Based on that capacity, you will likely be over the payload limit with that trailer.
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Old 10-03-2016, 12:06 PM   #10
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You are correct if I loaded the HTT to the limit, but before I went west I loaded the TT and the HTT for the trip and took it to a scale, HTT weighed in at 4300# and I was 300# below by GCWR for the Lincoln. It was close but still under the limits and I did not have any issues. I had to take it easy towing up 7% and 8% grades, but it did fine. I was just trying to give paulbabs a little feedback and maybe some reassurance about towing a Shamrock 17 with his Jeep.
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