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Old 03-15-2015, 02:52 PM   #11
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I was told the tongue weight was 602, the spec on forest river web site says 602, how did you come up with close to 700? Does a WDH add to this, you say 700 to play it safe? Just wondering, thanks!
you're making the newbie mistake of using fictional "dry" weight numbers.
NO trailer or hitch weighs its "dry" number in the real world.
as urocav stated, that hitch number doesn't include the weights of battery, propane, water and the cargo loaded into the trailer.

it's very easy for that fictional 602 number to jump up to 750lbs., when loaded for camping.
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Old 03-15-2015, 05:39 PM   #12
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Hello,

I'm new to RVs and towing but really interested in a hybrid camper. The 233s is what I really like. This will require an upgraded tow vehicle as our '11 Odyssey will clearly not cut it.

My question is, is the Diesel Grand Cherokee adequate as a tow vehicle for the 233s? I have a hard time comprehending all of the weight data, but what I know is that the Cherokee is rated to tow 7200 pounds. The GVWR of the 233s is 6602 and the hitch weight is 602 (not sure if the GVWR includes the hitch weight).

We are a family of four. Not large people and our kids are 7 and 5.

Will the Diesel Grand Cherokee cut it?

Thank you all for your help and advice.

My GC Diesel is rated for 7400lbs. The trailer weight is just over 5800lbs (dry) and when fully loaded with full propane, water tanks (when boondocking) and all the supplies it is very close to max weight. Your starting point is 800lbs above ours, I'm not sure it would be a good idea. Dry weight is without water, propane or batteries. Its really easy to add 1000lbs. Once a year I go thru my trailer and make sure I don't have unnecessary items packed away.

I moved my batteries inside under the bench seats located above the wheels. This helps with the hitch weight.

If you decide to go forward, be sure you get a good sway system, either ProPride or Hensley. I would not tow a trailer without my ProPride.

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Old 03-15-2015, 05:40 PM   #13
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Thank you all for the helpful replies. I think the Touareg is worth looking at.
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Old 03-15-2015, 10:40 PM   #14
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[QUOTE=WestCoastRV'er;806906]My GC Diesel is rated for 7400lbs. The trailer weight is just over 5800lbs (dry) and when fully loaded with full propane, water tanks (when boondocking) and all the supplies it is very close to max weight. Your starting point is 800lbs above ours, I'm not sure it would be a good idea. Dry weight is without water, propane or batteries. Its really easy to add 1000lbs. Once a year I go thru my trailer and make sure I don't have unnecessary items packed away.

I moved my batteries inside under the bench seats located above the wheels. This helps with the hitch weight.

If you decide to go forward, be sure you get a good sway system, either ProPride or Hensley. I would not tow a trailer without my ProPride. Quote.

.The dry weight of the 233s is 4512lbs and tongue of 602lbs with a Gross Vehicle weight of 6602lbs, well within the ability of your Grand Cherokee.
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Add weight of battery, 40 lbs of propane and that doesn't include the weight which is in the back of the jeep.


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Also, if you're hauling fresh water in your tank, most are located in front of the axles......adding tongue weight.
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you're making the newbie mistake of using fictional "dry" weight numbers.
NO trailer or hitch weighs its "dry" number in the real world.
as urocav stated, that hitch number doesn't include the weights of battery, propane, water and the cargo loaded into the trailer.

it's very easy for that fictional 602 number to jump up to 750lbs., when loaded for camping.
Don't forget the weight of the hitch. Mine is 50 lbs due to it being a sway hitch as well.
My wife wants the Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland which is 7200 tow rating and 1150 lbs payload. So..... 700 for the trailer, only leaving 400lbs of stuff, including people in the trailer. I don't think I would be any better off with it then I am currently with the durango.
Personally I am looking at the Dodge 1500 which has around 10k towing capacity and almost 1600-1800 payload depending if its a crewcab or standard chassis.
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My GC Diesel is rated for 7400lbs. The trailer weight is just over 5800lbs (dry) and when fully loaded with full propane, water tanks (when boondocking) and all the supplies it is very close to max weight. Your starting point is 800lbs above ours, I'm not sure it would be a good idea. Dry weight is without water, propane or batteries. Its really easy to add 1000lbs. Once a year I go thru my trailer and make sure I don't have unnecessary items packed away.

I moved my batteries inside under the bench seats located above the wheels. This helps with the hitch weight.

If you decide to go forward, be sure you get a good sway system, either ProPride or Hensley. I would not tow a trailer without my ProPride. Quote.

.The dry weight of the 233s is 4512lbs and tongue of 602lbs with a Gross Vehicle weight of 6602lbs, well within the ability of your Grand Cherokee.

@ only 4512 dry weight the GC can easily tow it. Still need either ProPride or Hensley Arrow. Safety is #1, don't let the price scare you away.
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@ only 4512 dry weight the GC can easily tow it. Still need either ProPride or Hensley Arrow. Safety is #1, don't let the price scare you away.
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Saying the OP "NEEDS" a ProPride or Hensley, is not true.

other time-tested sway integrated WDH's, like the Equal-i-zer, will do a good job too, at a much lower cost.
Especially for a trailer like the 233S.

but if you have the money and desire to have the top of the line, then go for one of those two.
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Saying the OP "NEEDS" a ProPride or Hensley, is not true.

other time-tested sway integrated WDH's, like the Equal-i-zer, will do a good job too, at a much lower cost.
Especially for a trailer like the 233S.

but if you have the money and desire to have the top of the line, then go for one of those two.

It is only a suggestion. In my opinion, these are the safest way to tow a trailer.

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in your case, towing a 30'+ TT with a short wheelbase SUV, i think you made the right choice.
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