Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-16-2015, 04:53 PM   #21
DDC
Senior Member
 
DDC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Komoka Ontario
Posts: 2,363
[QUOTE=bikendan;807708]
Quote:
Originally Posted by WestCoastRV'er View Post

Saying the OP "NEEDS" a ProPride or Hensley, is not true.

other time-tested sway integrated WDH's, like the Equal-i-zer, will do a good job too, at a much lower cost.
Especially for a trailer like the 233S.

but if you have the money and desire to have the top of the line, then go for one of those two.
If you take a look at my post you will see that I never wrote that, it was in the 'Quote' I carried forward, although I would not disagree with advising the 'Safest' action.
__________________

__________________
"Well that didn't go as expected"
2015 Chev 2500HD Highcountry Duramax
Cedar Creek Silverback 33IK
Donald&Casey cairn terrier
Rest in Peace Mary my darling wife.
Scottish by birth Canadian by time.
DDC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2015, 07:48 PM   #22
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 102
Quote:
Originally Posted by DDC View Post

If you take a look at my post you will see that I never wrote that, it was in the 'Quote' I carried forward, although I would not disagree with advising the 'Safest' action.
No offence but you need to figure out how to QUOTE someone posts, just giving feedback, you can tell you don't know how in this thread, just go back and see for yourself, just look at how I quoted you above and see the difference.....I have read your post more then once and the first time I read it you had me confused that I needed this ProPride or Hensley!!!!! Thanks for bikendan for saying something, because I already bought the Equal-I-zer when I ordered my Roo the other week!!!!!


Now I just have to figure out if I bought the right one because the one I got was rated for #600 tongue and for $40 more I could have got one rated at #700, I'm going to tell the dealer I want the #700 because of this thread!!!!!


TT
__________________

__________________
2016 Rockwood ROO 233S


2013 Ford F150 3.5 ECO SCREW
TT233S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2015, 08:29 PM   #23
Senior Member
 
WestCoastRV'er's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 223
You will find this forum full a wealth of information. I've learned so much here.

Happy Trails....

.
.
.
__________________

2011 2902ss Rockwood Ultralight
2008 Grand Cherokee 3.0L Diesel (255 hp @ 2900 rpm / 430 lb-ft @ 1,400-2,800 rpm)
3P ProPride Hitch
RV Mods
Wandering RV Life
WestCoastRV'er is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2015, 01:13 AM   #24
Engineer of Crazy Train
 
ChooChooMan74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Tiverton, RI
Posts: 1,559
A 233S can be pulled by the JGC, but carried, it may need some help. I ran into the same issue looking for trailers, and owning trucks and having the attitude of hook it up and if it pulls it, it is good. You may need to do some mods to help you if it is close.

As for my setup, I admit that camp ready, full of everything (fuel, water, propane, family, etc), I am approximately 100lbs over my Jeeps GVW. Again, I installed some of the best brake pads, i put airbags which helps the handling a bit, even at 12psi (max 35), and upgraded the tires. I also tow at 60mph MAX.
__________________
TV - 2015 Ram Truck EcoDiesel
TV - 2006 Jeep Liberty Turbo Diesel (Retired to Daily Driver)
TT - 2015 Rockwood Roo 183
Locomotive Engineer
Nights Camping --- 2015 - 19 Camped | Winterized -- 2014 -18
Come read my Camping Blogs
ChooChooMan74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2015, 01:19 PM   #25
Senior Member
 
WestCoastRV'er's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 223
Heard good things on other forums.

Green Diesel Engineering
__________________

2011 2902ss Rockwood Ultralight
2008 Grand Cherokee 3.0L Diesel (255 hp @ 2900 rpm / 430 lb-ft @ 1,400-2,800 rpm)
3P ProPride Hitch
RV Mods
Wandering RV Life
WestCoastRV'er is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2015, 04:28 PM   #26
Engineer of Crazy Train
 
ChooChooMan74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Tiverton, RI
Posts: 1,559
Quote:
Originally Posted by WestCoastRV'er View Post
Heard good things on other forums.

Green Diesel Engineering
I am tuned by Keith. I am bumping up to his Hot Tune this year. But, he has nothing for the VM 3.0 as of this time.
__________________
TV - 2015 Ram Truck EcoDiesel
TV - 2006 Jeep Liberty Turbo Diesel (Retired to Daily Driver)
TT - 2015 Rockwood Roo 183
Locomotive Engineer
Nights Camping --- 2015 - 19 Camped | Winterized -- 2014 -18
Come read my Camping Blogs
ChooChooMan74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2015, 10:53 AM   #27
Senior Member
 
urocav2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 560
Quote:
Originally Posted by MuddauberE View Post
Don't forget the weight of the hitch. Mine is 50 lbs due to it being a sway hitch as well.

My wife wants the Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland which is 7200 tow rating and 1150 lbs payload. So..... 700 for the trailer, only leaving 400lbs of stuff, including people in the trailer. I don't think I would be any better off with it then I am currently with the durango.

Personally I am looking at the Dodge 1500 which has around 10k towing capacity and almost 1600-1800 payload depending if its a crewcab or standard chassis.
400 lbs for cargo in vehicle, people in vehicle is not a lot lol plus your pushing limits and not thinking of wind resistance, high winds ect. We have a 1500 Silverado as of now and pulls it great. We would love to get a grand Cherokee but I don't think it's up to the task.. Maybe a Durango would be better. Ask to take it home for a few hours and try to tow with it and see what happens. But don't go by dry weights plus anything behind the rear axle of the tow vehicle is payload or hutch weight. And don't listen to a Rv salesman about saying it will tow it because they are trying to sell you something and don't really care. And they also make you sign a sheet stating they are not responsible if your vehicle can not tow the unit.


Sent from my iPhone using Forest River Forums
__________________
urocav2001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2015, 12:02 PM   #28
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: West Jordan, UT
Posts: 826
I am not sure which model GC you are looking into but the most limiting factor will be the payload limit. Most peoples vehicle set up are not overloaded in the sense they are "pulling" too much weight it is overloaded in the sense that they have too much weight loaded into or on the TV.

The GC has a payload limit between 1090 and 1270 (depending on model and 4x4 option). I'll use the 1270 number for illustration purposes and best case scenario.

1270 payload of the GC, your "dry weight" (unloaded without anything) of the camper is 602, there goes half your payload for a dry camper. Once you add gear, batteries, propane or even lets say you just load the camper to two thirds of its CC, so now the camper weighs 5500 and has a tongue weight of 690 pounds. 1270 - 690 = 580 left over. This 580 would be for personell (driver in excess of 150), luggage, cargo or anything that was added to the TV.

I am 220 and my wife is 150 and my son and car seat is 80 so that is 280 pounds and you say a family of 4 so add maybe another 50 ish pounds so 580 - 350 = 230 remaining for hitch, cargo, luggage, bikes, coolers, dogs or anything else you add.

So with the biggest tow capacity GC you could squeak by, but if you went with the smallest capacity GC you would be just over. Either way in my opinion you would be close by the numbers, now some people believe that the numbers are too conservative and just take it slow and cautions and believe they will be fine.

These are just my opinions and my estimates based on rough and "dry" numbers, do not take this as fact, I was just illustrating possible situations based on rough numbers I looked up for the 233 and GC. I hope I did help one way or the other.
__________________
2018 XLR Nitro 36T15
2015 GMC 3500 6.6/Allison

Nights Camped (2017- 16) (2016-13) (2015-13)
SuicideSaints is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2015, 10:35 AM   #29
Junior Member
 
priest6479's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Hopatcong, NJ
Posts: 10
I just purchased a 233s , I can tell you my dealer loaded 2x 20lbs propane tanks and a Interstate marine battery and they took it over their scale .... it weighed it at 650lbs at the tongue. trailer itself weighed around 4526lbs.

- I don't ever intend on towing with a full load of water.

- For the moment I only have 1 full tank of propane, the other is empty (Swapped out my empty grill tank) We are only gone for a few days at at time so to use up 40lbs of propane is insane. If we stay out some where for a week maybe then I will fill up the second tank.

- We came from tenting and then a popup so most of our gear is light and compact....Soooo one night over a bottle of Irish Whiskey the wife and I decided since we had all of our camping gear spread across the kitchen we should weigh it all (Sleeping bags, cooking utensils, forks, knives, Keurig, Tools, Toilet Paper, Sewer hoses etc etc etc we had a total of 176lbs worth of gear .....Whiskey makes you do silly things fellas what can I say.

- We are also using a Blue Ox Weight Distro hitch (750lbs rating)

- For some added stability on NJ/PA/NY pothole roads we added the Firestone Airbag Suspension kit to the pickup

I am currently using a new 2014 Nissan Frontier, Crew Cab, 4x4 and short bed.
It pulls it along just fine, on some hills she def drops a gear and grunts but the truck doesn't sound like it's being punished. Even with our popup I never cruised faster than 60 -65 mph so the truck has no issues with this.

So that is just my firsthand experience with the 233s
__________________
priest6479 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2015, 06:15 PM   #30
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: indiana
Posts: 586
To me it's all about safety. When we were researching new campers I wanted to be sure we weren't anywhere near max limits. Wife's 08 Durango was too close for me so I bought a Ram 1500 hemi. So glad I did. Towed the camper (23ikss) maybe 5 miles with the Durango . Lack of power was noticeable on level pavement and the shorter wheelbase caused porpoising on undulating roads. Same run with the truck was totally uneventful. Just the way I like it. My opinion.....buy more tv than you need. You won't be sorry.
__________________

__________________
Jim and Deb
Many times..asst grandkids
2015 Shamrock 23ikss
2013 Ram 1500
jking46 is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
233, 233s, cherokee, diesel

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




ForestRiverForums.com is not in any way associated with Forest River, Inc. or its associated RV manufacturing divisions.


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:42 PM.