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Old 04-14-2013, 08:10 PM   #11
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Thank you all for the great advice!

We are now looking at the 23SS and the 233S. Any thoughts of our TV having issues with these? Also what should we expect on pricing. I have a line on a 2013 23SS for 20k out the door. Just need a WDH (leaning towards the equalizer)
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:07 PM   #12
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first, slow down.

you started off looking at a hard-sided rear bed slide trailer and now you're looking at canvas bunk end hybrids.

you may not think so, but these are very different trailers with different pros and cons.
and you have mentioned the 23SS and the 233S, again very different hybrids.

do you really need the 3 queen beds of the 233S? have you looked at the 21SS since you have the two dogs? do the boys mind sleeping together?
have you ever owned a popup? i ask this because most hybrid owners are former popup owners and know the good things and the bad things about the canvas ends and still prefer them.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:08 PM   #13
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I personally wouldn't tow either of those trailers with the Jeep GC. We have the 2013 233S and like I said I tow it with a 2010 V8 Suburban. I know it is behind me and it does make my truck work.

The real problem is towing these big trailers with short wheel base SUV's. I like knowing that my truck can handle the sway and won't get pushed around.

Our second vehicle is a Jeep Commander V8 Hemi and before we bought the Suburban I was looking at a Roo. All I was comfortable towing at the time would have been the 183 or 19 with the Jeep.

As others have stated the real world weight of the 233S based on the yellow sticker on the trailer is more like 4560 lbs. I think that is what mine said.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:14 PM   #14
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I agree with bikendan we were former Pop up owners for 6 years before we moved up to a Hybrid.

We are totally comfortable with canvas and all the advantages/disadvantages that you experience. But, any search on RV forums will find many people who don't like canvas so it is best to be absolutely sure you like this type of trailer over the rear slides you are looking at.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:26 PM   #15
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Canvas takes a lot of extra care and caution, esp. after rain. Campers in general require a lot of maintenance, you may or may not want the extra considerations, so check it out before you commit.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:34 PM   #16
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Thanks. We are prior pop up owners. We originally started looking at the 23SS but migrated to the 25RS because the dealer stated we would be fine towing it. Our cost difference between the 23SS and the 25RS is 1000. I prefer the hard side but do understand that the limiting factor is our TV. We are leaning more towards the 23SS again due to everyone's recommendation on the Jeep GC and the 25RS. We were quick to put a deposit on the 25RS due to the fact that it is in transit. We didn't want it snapped up on us.

My initial fears of the canvas ends were the leaking and material separation problems listed on this forum. After reading into these issue I feel more comfortable that I will know what to look out for. I am a complete nut when it comes to maintenance (stay tuned for the million questions to come once we actually take delivery).

I am glad that's researched this site along with trolling a few other hybrid sites. My wife is completely up in arms as I have been obsessing over this for a week. You should have seen me when we settled on the new Jeep.

Are you guys saying the new jeep will not be up to the task of even towing the 23SS? Looking at the features of the loaded 23SS available I would assume that the Jeep will have an easier time (along with being within the parameters) pulling it.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:50 PM   #17
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I just brought up the spec sheet on the 23SS. The dry weight with upgrades is 4450lbs. 700 lbs lighter than the 25RS. After gear, LP and battery I factor 5400lbs. Looks like with the Equalizer and keeping our gear in the TT we are within limits.
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:04 PM   #18
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I must have an extra upgrade, because the dry weight of my 2013 23SS is 4,523 lbs. Sounds like that's still within your limits. If you do get it, get yourself weighed up to be sure.
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:12 PM   #19
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Interesting. I missed the second sheet, total weight is 4482:

Here's the wrap sheet


Description
4 GAS OVEN
7 RAISED REFER PANEL FRONTS
9 CONVENIENCE PACKAGE C
9.1 TINTED SAFETY GLASS WINDOWS
9.2 MICROWAVE OVEN
9.3 TV ANTENNA W/CABLE HOOK UP
9.4 AWNING
9.5 LCD TV
9.6 GAS/ELECTRIC HOT WATER HEATER
9.7 OUTSIDE SPEAKERS
9.8 ROOF A/C
10 POWER AWNING W/PKG
11 SPARE TIRE CARRIER & COVER
16 ALUMINUM WHEELS
18 OUTSIDE GRILL
22 HEATED MATTRESS
24 CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTOR
25 WATER PURIFIER
26 CREATE-A-BREEZE BATH ROOF VENT
CHRY CHERRY WOOD
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:13 PM   #20
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My dry weight lists 4576 lbs with cargo capacity of 1739 lbs. - 2013 Roo 23ss.


I must have the optional rally fun pack.
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