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Old 04-14-2013, 10:44 PM   #21
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Red stick and Force what would say your TT weights in at when you head out for a short trip? We will primarily start with weekend trips to campgrounds providing power and water.
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Old 04-14-2013, 11:20 PM   #22
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Red stick and Force what would say your TT weights in at when you head out for a short trip? We will primarily start with weekend trips to campgrounds providing power and water.
Will try and get weighed next weekend, will let you know.
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Old 04-14-2013, 11:29 PM   #23
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I weighed it only one time and didn't get the 3 weights described to get an accurate reading. That said I probably packed an additional 1000 pounds both in the bed of the truck and the trailer. There is only three of us in my family - me, my wife and our son who is 8. We do bring our dog with us - he's about 40 lbs.

I plan to hit the scales again at some point just so I know.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:12 AM   #24
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as i said before, with my Avy's 7200lbs. capacity, i feel very comfortable pulling my 5000lbs.+ 23SS. but i have to tow over lots of mountain ranges out here in the West. so, i feel my combo is perfect.

don't know where you live or plan to tow, but you probably will be fine on flat land but you may not be happy in the mountains.

this was a big reason we chose the trailer we wanted before we bought a tow vehicle. one of the recommendations from the many RV forums we did research on. this is just advice for others looking to buy a trailer.
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:14 AM   #25
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Here are my numbers:

My 2009 GMC 1/2 with a 5.3 V8, and all factory towing HD cooling options available is 7,000 lbs. GVWR, having a GCVWR of 15,000 lbs, and trailer capacity of 9,500 lbs. the factory weight is 4,598 lbs.

By the time I add 4 passenger, 24 gallons of fuel, propane, water (I carry 36 gallons) battery, WDH, contents of trailer, I'm at 83% (5,136 lbs.) of the trailer GVWR and 86% (6,032 lbs.) of the truck's GVWR.

At the end of the day I have less than 500 lbs. before I reach the GVWR of the truck and am about 75% of my GCVWR.

The truck tows the trialer fine, but, as Dan said I wouldn't want much behind me.
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Sorry- I should say the factory weight "of the trailer" is 4,598 lbs.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:02 PM   #27
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Again thank you everyone!!!

We are calling the dealer to cancel the 25RS as it wouldn't be safe with the GC. We would rather have that trailer but I don't plan on trading in my VW for a truck for at least 2 more years. The 23SS is what my loved the most so we are going to flip.

Side note: we live in southeast MI and will do the majority of our traveling to Copper Harbor MI and in between. We would like to do a trip out west but might work on borrowing a buddies Ram for that trip or maybe by then trading my car in.

So on to the next project: PDI list and "must have for camping" list. Any recommendations for the latter list? Most of our camping gear is old or on loan to a brother up north (don't plan on getting it back situation) oh well.
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So on to the next project: PDI list and "must have for camping" list. Any recommendations for the latter list? Most of our camping gear is old or on loan to a brother up north (don't plan on getting it back situation) oh well.
"Must haves" are fun lists to make. Everyone's is different so I'll just throw out a few ideas and the reasons I use them.

Two things will help you most of all, though.

FIRST: Driveway camping or camping really close to home so you can see for yourself what you need. Bring pen and paper.

SECOND: Knowledge is power and most new RVers would do well to prepare a little beforehand. Explore our library and our Tips & Tricks areas. There is a lot of knowledge there. Not as fun as buying stuff, but probably more useful.


Now onto the stuff to buy (I assume you will have basics covered like TP, utensils, etc)

  • A good RV Awning mat. You want one that is easy to clean, allows water to flow through and will not soak up the water.
  • PopupGizmos To keep your tent ends warmer in cool weather, cooler in warm weather and cleaner overall.
  • First Aid kit - Stuff happens and best to be prepared.
  • Multimeter and the book Managing 12 Volts You will need to repair electrical sooner or later.
  • A collapsible saw.
  • A decent sewer hose (aka Stinky Slinky) The one your dealer gives you for "free" can be thrown away or kept for emergencies.
  • Portable drill and an adapter for your stabilizers. Save your back!
  • Levels for your trailer. Attach these to the passenger-side front of the trailer to balance side-by-side and back-to-front.
  • Leveling blocks and chocks. You can make your own or use Lynx Levelers. Self-explanatory.
  • X-Chocks to help control trailer motion. Not really necessary but nice to have.
  • RV outside water filter This depends on how good your water sources are.
  • A GOOD surge protector. I use a progressive. Shop around for the best price but don't cheap out.
  • Calgon water softener. Read about the Geo Method.
  • Tool kit
That's all I can think of right now.


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Old 04-18-2013, 10:58 AM   #29
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Thank you again to everyone.

We have the P/A on the 23SS. We are going to utilize the Jeep for a bit until I switch out my car for a Ram or Ecoboost F-150.

What's your opinion on this package:

2013 23SS with:

* GAS OVEN
* RAISED REFER PANEL FRONTS
* CONVENIENCE PACKAGE C
* TINTED SAFETY GLASS WINDOWS
* MICROWAVE OVEN
* TV ANTENNA W/CABLE HOOK UP
* AWNING
* LCD TV
* GAS/ELECTRIC HOT WATER HEATER
* OUTSIDE SPEAKERS
* ROOF A/C
* POWER AWNING W/PKG
* SPARE TIRE CARRIER & COVER
* ALUMINUM WHEELS
* OUTSIDE GRILL
* HEATED MATTRESS
* CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTOR
* WATER PURIFIER
* CREATE-A-BREEZE BATH ROOF VENT
* CHERRY WOOD
* 4482LBS

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Equilzer 4 way 1,000/10,000 lbs WDH
Energizer 3 BC

All out the door for $21K?
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:21 PM   #30
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How about this surge protector?

Progressive Industries SSP50 Smart Surge : Amazon.com : Automotive
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