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Old 04-13-2013, 02:42 PM   #1
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Another Newbie here

Thank all for the great info thus far!!!

My wife and I have been wrestling around with the idea of a Rockwood Roo and have fallen in love with the 25RS. We have two young boys and a couple black labs.

My issue at hand is should I trust the recommendation of the dealer that our TV is capable of handling a 25RS? We own a new Jeep GC Limited with the Pentastar V6, 8 speed tranny and trailer tow package. The Weight limit is 6200 lbs. Due to the black labs we will be placing all of our gear in the trailer. I prefer keeping less stuff in the car while we travel. I estimate that we have roughly 800 lbs of flesh inside the car and 600 lbs of gear in the trailer. The dealer told me that the TT with options will be 5150 lbs.

We live in MI and will be traveling north to the UP for most of our trips.

Are we crazy to trust the dealer that the car will handle the TT?
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Old 04-13-2013, 03:05 PM   #2
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I am not familiar much with your towing vehicle but according to this chart, it seems that it can only tow a trailer with max weight of 5000 lbs. This trailer will weight close to 6200 lbs when propane tanks are filled, battery added and you put all your stuff in it. Also what class of hitch will be on your Jeep? I'm sure others will tune in and give you more info.
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Old 04-13-2013, 03:15 PM   #3
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Welcome Cruze,
I hade a nice long reply for you but then my iPad went wonky

Here is attempt number 2.

Bottom line is that I think you will be right at the margins with your ratings or over.

This calculator will help you delve into the math Forest River Forums - Downloads - Calculator - Travel Trailer Weight Calculator

Your Jeep will be very close as far as towing capacity. The trailer will probably weigh up to 1,000lbs more than it is dry when you add in water, batteries, propane, mods, and all of your cargo. You'll be under the towing cap by maybe 100-200lbs.

However, really watch your payload cap. I think its 1,200lbs +/- 100lbs for today's JGC's and the tongue weight will probably be 650-750 depending how you load the trailer. That leaves you with as much as 650lbs for the family and your labs.

It doesn't appear to be a good match and I would not want to recommend it without double-checking the math through that calculator.
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Old 04-13-2013, 03:19 PM   #4
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Thank you Fonzie

This is a new 2014 with the 8 speed tranny for 2014 the trailer tow capabilities were upped to 6200.

Do the batteries and propane tanks weight 400lbs? We will be running empty on water as we plan on using the campsite hookups. I believe the camper weight of 5150 includes the battery and filled LP tanks. I was estimating 5750 total in weight once loaded with our gear.

Any and all responses are greatly appreciated
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Old 04-13-2013, 03:26 PM   #5
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Cruze,

Just for comparison, my 233S weighed 300lbs more than the brochure weight. That is the sticker weight, which includes the factory mods such as option package, slideout awning, fridge door, etc. The sticker does not include a battery or filled propane tanks.

Plus, you always carry some water. Your black tank will need 3-5 gl as a minimum and many of us carry another 5 gls of FW even if we plan to fill up at the campground. I know some people claim to never need water when on the road, but it just has never worked out that way for me and my kids.
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Old 04-13-2013, 03:27 PM   #6
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two 20 lb tanks with propane weight 80#
a group 24 battery will be in the 60# range
AVERAGE user installed items is 1000#
You also have to add the weight of your wdh which will be 100# or more.
Fire wood
tools
chairs
food/drinks
clothing
bedding
bathroom necessities
awning mat
Water heater tank full 40 to 80 #
pots/pans/dishes/glasses/silverware



It adds up to more than you think and fast !


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Since it is a 2014 with rating of 6200, I would use the calculator that Triguy has provided. Battery and propane will weight app. 150 lbs. You will be very close to the max rating if you don't go over. Again use calculator with all available info.....
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I wouldn't tow that trailer with the Jeep GC. Can it be done? Yes, but you will be at the upper limit of your tow capacity as others have stated.

You are gong to be running that engine hard with high RPMs even on flat stretches with little extra power for passing or emergency situations.

I tow a 2013 Roo 233S with a 2010 Chevrolet Suburban and I wouldn't want any smaller of a truck to pull my rig. I'm not part of the group that argues that everyone towing has to have a 3/4 ton dually with diesel. Far from it. I just think you will not enjoy the towing experience with the Jeep

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Old 04-14-2013, 10:49 AM   #9
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Thank you all for the feedback. My wife and I need to rethink our decision. We only put a deposit on the 25RS as it is brand new and won't be here for another 2 weeks.

We looked at the 23SS and the 233S. We are concerned with tent bunks but see the advantage on weight.

I wish I could solve this problem with trading my car in and getting a 1/2 ton but I drive 35 miles to Detroit everyday for work and with our old Yukon XL I was averaging 14 - 15 on light traffic days.

Are there any vehicles recommended that could handle the 25RS that are not a 1/2 ton or larger?
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unfortunately, if you want a rear hard-sided bed slide trailer, i think you need to look at the 23RS, for your GC. a 27'+ TT behind a short wheelbase GC won't be fun.
this type of trailer isn't as popular as other types, so manufacturers don't offer many models.
in fact, Outback, which used to offer the best variety of this type, is down to 2 models, not counting toyhaulers. they used to have about 5-6.

there won't be anything for this length and weight of a trailer, that's not a 1/2 ton or more.

i pull my 24' Roo with an '07 Avalanche that has 7200lbs. of tow capacity. it weighs a little over 5000lbs. loaded for camping. i would not tow anything much heavier, especially thru the mountains.
by the way, my Avy, with the 5.3 AFM v-8, can get 20mpg on the freeway. i get this mileage almost every time i drive to Sacramento and back, a 130 mile RT.
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