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Old 04-03-2015, 07:40 PM   #21
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Is there not some differences in the 2014 and newer bunk design with those designs from earlier models? I seem to recall seeing a picture of a 2011 (maybe) model and the bunk hinges did not look like my Shamrock 183's hinges with a build date of Sept 2013?

Just wondering if we are all talking about the same design year and if there is a difference in those hinges and the sealing of the bunk frames...
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Old 04-03-2015, 09:26 PM   #22
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Is there not some differences in the 2014 and newer bunk design with those designs from earlier models? I seem to recall seeing a picture of a 2011 (maybe) model and the bunk hinges did not look like my Shamrock 183's hinges with a build date of Sept 2013?

Just wondering if we are all talking about the same design year and if there is a difference in those hinges and the sealing of the bunk frames...
There is a difference. I've lost track since I stopped fabricating leak solutions, but FR is on the 4th or 5th iteration. Based on posters to these forums, FR still doesn't have a true, uniform solution for complete leak-proof sealing on every unit. They have, with absolute certainty, reduced the propensity of leaking exponentially with the later designs.
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Old 04-04-2015, 08:54 AM   #23
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I have a 22ss I put the cross support on the top of the bed works fine
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Old 04-04-2015, 11:38 AM   #24
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Thanks.....just did the drill.

1. Pull the fold in the mattress about 1 inch inboard of hinge.
2. Place the crook support on the crease of the fold.
3. Drop the hoop support onto the mattress.
4. Close windows and turn on power vents.
5. Close the door and go out to lift panels and latch them.
6. Helps to fold upper corner of canopy toward the opposite corner. Watch to make sure nothing gets pinched.
7. If it doesn't seem to latch in easily, go back and verify you pulled the mattress in to correct position (leave the bigger hammer in the tool box)
8. For outside storage between trips, dropping the front end down below level just add a margin of safety in avoiding rain water finding its way through seals.



BTW: I spent the entire day yesterday in removing bumper panels placed in various storage spaces on the 183.
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Old 04-06-2015, 11:26 PM   #25
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Ok, all this mattress talk makes me ask the question. How do I keep the mattresses from sliding out when the bunk is up? We have a 2015 233S and the front bunk mattress slides and sticks out with the canvass all billowed out over the top. It's kind of irritating when I'm in there trying to do anything.
I find if you have the mattress heating model they are thick enough not to fall. When I had my old TT, I would put a bungee from one cable on the bed to the other and hold it up.
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Old 04-07-2015, 01:16 AM   #26
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Update! I went into the camper to close one of the ends up, as it is going to rain tomorrow. I closed the door, opened both roof vents over the fans. I pulled the mattress a bit forward, dropped the crossbar, put the hook inside the fold of the mattress. Then I turned on both fans and presto! the canvas sucked right into the camper! I went outside, closed the door and simply folded up the bed platform all by myself. Nothing in the hinges or stuck in the seals. I can't believe it was so simple...and I'm only 5'3"! Thank you to whoever posted this video! What an easy way to pack up!
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Old 04-07-2015, 05:13 AM   #27
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Unhook the bungy cords to gain access to the mattress snaps, fold the mattress in two and connect the snaps. Drop the hoop over the mattress so it's on top."Voila" you are done.
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Dont have bungy cords...the ends are sealed.
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Old 04-07-2015, 04:02 PM   #29
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Unhook the bungy cords to gain access to the mattress snaps, fold the mattress in two and connect the snaps. Drop the hoop over the mattress so it's on top."Voila" you are done.
TinkerToy, hybrids haven't had bungee/snaps tent ends for at least 4 years now.
all manufacturers are making them with pre-attached tent ends.
no more bungees and no more snaps.
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Old 04-07-2015, 04:32 PM   #30
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1. Pull the fold in the mattress about 1 inch inboard of hinge.
2. Place the crook support on the crease of the fold.
3. Drop the hoop support onto the mattress.
4. Close windows and turn on power vents.
5. Close the door and go out to lift panels and latch them.
6. Helps to fold upper corner of canopy toward the opposite corner. Watch to make sure nothing gets pinched.
7. If it doesn't seem to latch in easily, go back and verify you pulled the mattress in to correct position (leave the bigger hammer in the tool box)
8. For outside storage between trips, dropping the front end down below level just add a margin of safety in avoiding rain water finding its way through seals.
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This is the best closing write-up I have seen...

I hope the bunk end seals are a lot better then they used to be since they changed the design a few years ago. I just had 4 inches of rain in 24 hours two days ago. 95% of the camper is under a canopy except for the very front. Today I pulled the front bunk down to check for water leakage and found none on my 2014 183. Maybe when the seals get older they may stop to seal properly...

I wonder if you can buy that rubber seal material in bulk somewhere?
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